Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Rroff said:
Shame they couldn't have blown them up there and then. For me it was one of the signs that war might be more likely than not to happen - Russia was continuing to move hardware forward in "exercises" then draw back the manpower and a show of some hardware, but leaving an ever increasing pile of hardware behind each time forward staged.
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In retrospect it is kinda funny to look back to when it was pretty much just us two warning they were either gonna to invade or going to use the very real threat of invasion as political blackmail, and pretty much everyone else in the thread trying to just blow it off as Putin grandstanding.

Of course back then we also had comrade Enkore (RIP) trying to claim that if it did kick off Russia would steamroll to Kiev in days and that the Ukrainian air defences and army would be no match whatsoever for Russia's super air supremacy and bazillion tank advantage :cry:. I'm not going to lie I am happy to have won that argument (the Ukraine's gonna hold them off argument not the Ukraine's gonna get invaded argument).
 
ubersonic said:
Of course back then we also had comrade Enkore (RIP) trying to claim that if it did kick off Russia would steamroll to Kiev in days and that the Ukrainian air defences and army would be no match whatsoever for Russia's super air supremacy and bazillion tank advantage :cry:. I'm not going to lie I am happy to have won that argument (the Ukraine's gonna hold them off argument not the Ukraine's gonna get invaded argument).
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Unfortunate for Ukraine but I do find it funny only days later events pretty decisively made Enkore's posts look like the rubbish they were.
 
dowie said:
Putin rushed to the Kremlin again:
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Dunno if related to that but bunch of Russian 223rd Flight Unit and National Guard flights heading out of Moscow currently travelling approx. towards Chechnya.

EDIT: Also 4+ Russian government planes spreading out from Moscow - may be heading off to pick people up for the emergency session or something.
 
woppy101 said:
Russians are a special kind of stupid TBF
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I'd say stupid is the person who believes what is posted on twitter without any evidence (not even a photoshopped firewatch satellite image)
Looks to me a complete made up story to raise the morale of forum readers
[and no you can't ask me to provide evidence that the post is BS. It is almost impossible to prove that an event didn't happen]
 
The big indicator for me was when it was reported that Russia had started moving their reserves of blood from all over the country to forward field hospitals being set up to support the forces deployed in Belarus and around Ukraine. It was at that point for me that I thought “well ****, they’re going to do something”, although at the time I thought that something would be to occupy Donetsk and Luhansk, hold referendums and annexe them, not launch a full scale invasion with an attempt to snatch Kyiv in the 1st few days.

I guess they had visions of a repeat of 2014, and had no idea of the scale of resistance and the resolve of the Ukrainians in the face of another Russian attempt to humiliate them.
 
woppy101 said:
Russians are a special kind of stupid TBF
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Well it does happen...
'The only British death in the SAS operations to counter Argentine commando patrols in the Mount Kent area, occurred when a SAS patrol fired on an SBS patrol near Teal Inlet who had strayed into an area patrolled by the SAS in the early hours of 2 June. SBS Sergeant Ian ‘Kiwi’ Nicholas Hunt was killed...'
 
*Pre warning for all those people who have allergic reactions to bull crap, take care when reading the below statements*

Russia’s Defense Ministry has a new excuse for why it is faltering in the war in Ukraine: Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu claimed—without providing evidence—that Russian forces are being careful to avoid civilian casualties, which he says is slowing down their progress.

“Every effort is being done to prevent civilian casualties. It certainly slows down the advance,” Shoigu told a meeting of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) Wednesday, according to TASS. “But we are doing it on purpose.”

Russian forces, however, have been hitting Ukrainian civilians from the beginning of the war, which Wednesday reached its six-month mark. In the early days of the war, Russia hit a maternity hospital, killing at least one mother and baby. Since, Russia has hit playgrounds, theaters clearly marked as safeguarding children, office and apartment buildings, a shopping mall.
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Maybe the first step in prepping their population for when they have to admit their losing this war?
 
Freddie1980 said:
*Pre warning for all those people who have allergic reactions to bull crap, take care when reading the below statements*



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Maybe the first step in prepping their population for when they have to admit their losing this war?
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They'll never admit anything. They'll just claim their objectives have been achieved (whatever they are, they've never been clear).

The problem will be is the Ukranians aren't likely to allow the Russians to just stop as the Ukranians are unlikely to give up land once the balance tips towards stalemate. A long protracted conflict similar to the post 2014 Donbas is likely.
 
Minstadave said:
They'll never admit anything. They'll just claim their objectives have been achieved (whatever they are, they've never been clear).

The problem will be is the Ukranians aren't likely to allow the Russians to just stop as the Ukranians are unlikely to give up land once the balance tips towards stalemate. A long protracted conflict similar to the post 2014 Donbas is likely.
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That had a semi perpetual ceasefire in effect (which both sides claiming the other broke regularly) but didn’t have all out artillery warfare going on.

I can’t see Ukraine allowing that to happen with so much of its territory in the south having been seized so while they have the munitions I expect they’ll keep the attrition levels up.
 
Washout said:
That had a semi perpetual ceasefire in effect (which both sides claiming the other broke regularly) but didn’t have all out artillery warfare going on.

I can’t see Ukraine allowing that to happen with so much of its territory in the south having been seized so while they have the munitions I expect they’ll keep the attrition levels up.
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Ukraine can't afford to get tired.

Their borrowed power won't last forever and they're still not in the EU or NATO. If they haven't got what they want by the time their backers get distracted by West Taiwan kicking off then that's probably going to be the end of any taking back land from Russia.
 
Up from what though?

That is staff rather than troops as well, so presumably all support staff would be included.

I wonder if the Russian populace is really going to want to charge into Ukraine to die for their country.

I can see more support going to Ukraine to counter more troops arriving from Russia tbh, US isn't going to just stop supplying stuff, they will see this as a good opportunity to field test equipment, and also to weaken Russia.
 
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