Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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*seven said:
Maybe leave Ukraine
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You've rather missed the point - Putin will likely use nuclear weapons to stop this from happening.

I can only assume that many of posters here are rather detached from the reality of what is happening (pro-tip - what happens in the news is not just a picture on your screen.)

Instead of a reasoned response, I get rolling with laughter emojis, which says a lot about the level of the debate.

SPG said:
Wow I grew up in the 70's impending nuclear war and doom never crossed my mind.......

But that bridge explosion wowzers.
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Maybe you were living under a rock? To be honest, I'm not sure how you could have missed it...

I think I'll leave you armchair warriors to it - I'm out.
 
Lol you gotta admire modern Russian "engineering".

The Antonivskyi bridge has withstood months if constant himars attack on a single spanning section and not collapsed and this house of cards folds after one fuel car explosion?

Doubt it's a missile, probs Ukrainian special forces having placed specific explosives under key points and timed it for when the fuel train passed over.

The fact they managed to get men and explosives in and under the bridge when it was meant to have absolute Russian military protection is hilarious.

This was Putin's pride and joy. A perfect birthday present!
 
esmozz said:
You've rather missed the point - Putin will likely use nuclear weapons to stop this from happening.

I can only assume that many of posters here are rather detached from the reality of what is happening (pro-tip - what happens in the news is not just a picture on your screen.)

Instead of a reasoned response, I get rolling with laughter emojis, which says a lot about the level of the debate.



Maybe you were living under a rock? To be honest, I'm not sure how you could have missed it...

I think I'll leave you armchair warriors to it - I'm out.
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Perhaps people are fully aware of the risks but have a different view or way of dealing with things (pro-tip people don't always agree).
 
esmozz said:
You've rather missed the point - Putin will likely use nuclear weapons to stop this from happening.

I can only assume that many of posters here are rather detached from the reality of what is happening (pro-tip - what happens in the news is not just a picture on your screen.)

Instead of a reasoned response, I get rolling with laughter emojis, which says a lot about the level of the debate.



Maybe you were living under a rock? To be honest, I'm not sure how you could have missed it...

I think I'll leave you armchair warriors to it - I'm out.
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We still can’t back down even if nukes are used. Putin won’t think thank goodness for that the west has gone away. He will go now I’ve found their weak spot and will dial it up to 11.
 
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esmozz said:
You've rather missed the point - Putin will likely use nuclear weapons to stop this from happening.
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I haven't missed the point, I think giving Putin what he wants isn't really the way out of it, we've seen that with Crimea already. He will always want more.
What's your alternative? We can't just bend over to anyone that has nukes.
 
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esmozz said:
You've rather missed the point - Putin will likely use nuclear weapons to stop this from happening.

I can only assume that many of posters here are rather detached from the reality of what is happening (pro-tip - what happens in the news is not just a picture on your screen.)

Instead of a reasoned response, I get rolling with laughter emojis, which says a lot about the level of the debate.



Maybe you were living under a rock? To be honest, I'm not sure how you could have missed it...

I think I'll leave you armchair warriors to it - I'm out.
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Nothing we can really do about it. Yes, as stuff like this happens we are certainly closer to nuclear war. But as another poster said.. What can you do?


If putin wants to end the world he's going to do it at some point. And you can't blame Ukraine for not wanting to surrender.


If this is how the world ends, standing up to a bully? So be it.


Just hope I'm not one of the ones left behind!
 
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CaneyJ said:
Lol you gotta admire modern Russian "engineering".

The Antonivskyi bridge has withstood months if constant himars attack on a single spanning section and not collapsed and this house of cards folds after one fuel car explosion?

Doubt it's a missile, probs Ukrainian special forces having placed specific explosives under key points and timed it for when the fuel train passed over.

The fact they managed to get men and explosives in and under the bridge when it was meant to have absolute Russian military protection is hilarious.

This was Putin's pride and joy. A perfect birthday present!
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Wonder if it was a boat drone?
 
Stumble Bum said:
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Quick, to the forums, the Crimea bridge is down...

(I was excited checking Twitter too, though you guys have all gotten up earlier than me on a Saturday! LOL)

Would love to see Putin's reaction to this news while he's opening his Birthday cards! :D
 
esmozz said:
You've rather missed the point - Putin will likely use nuclear weapons to stop this from happening.

I can only assume that many of posters here are rather detached from the reality of what is happening (pro-tip - what happens in the news is not just a picture on your screen.)

Instead of a reasoned response, I get rolling with laughter emojis, which says a lot about the level of the debate.



Maybe you were living under a rock? To be honest, I'm not sure how you could have missed it...

I think I'll leave you armchair warriors to it - I'm out.
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Difference here is that it was the Soviets during the 50s-80s. They were trying to protect their whole ideology. Today the Russians are a kleptocracy run by people trying to protect their bank accounts with a former kgb guy pining for the past while enjoying the billionaire lifestyle himself.
There’s zero threat externally to Russia. It is not threatened. Being defeated in Ukraine will be a huge embarrassment, sure, and they can wail and moan about Crimea being Russian, when it’s not, but ultimately what would they rather? Lose their Black Sea holiday home or watch every Russian city get turned into glowing red hot rock?
Eventually they’ll turn on Putin for driving them down this road.
 
esmozz said:
You've rather missed the point - Putin will likely use nuclear weapons to stop this from happening.

I can only assume that many of posters here are rather detached from the reality of what is happening (pro-tip - what happens in the news is not just a picture on your screen.)

Instead of a reasoned response, I get rolling with laughter emojis, which says a lot about the level of the debate.



Maybe you were living under a rock? To be honest, I'm not sure how you could have missed it...

I think I'll leave you armchair warriors to it - I'm out.
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What do you think Nuclear weapons will achieve for Putin and what do you think it risks for him?
 
CaneyJ said:
Doubt it's a missile, probs Ukrainian special forces having placed specific explosives under key points and timed it for when the fuel train passed over.

The fact they managed to get men and explosives in and under the bridge when it was meant to have absolute Russian military protection is hilarious.
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Maybe, though would need a heck of a lot of explosives.

Big bomb on the train itself could be another explanation, no precise timing needed, train goes boom, bridge goes boom, fuel goes boom...

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esmozz said:
You've rather missed the point - Putin will likely use nuclear weapons to stop this from happening.

I can only assume that many of posters here are rather detached from the reality of what is happening (pro-tip - what happens in the news is not just a picture on your screen.)

Instead of a reasoned response, I get rolling with laughter emojis, which says a lot about the level of the debate.



Maybe you were living under a rock? To be honest, I'm not sure how you could have missed it...

I think I'll leave you armchair warriors to it - I'm out.
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Don't be a coward and leave because people don't agree with you.

What do you want us to do, let him continue to murder innocents in his illegal invasion?
So what a country has nuclear weapons and if they chose to attack a none aligned nation we let them go about their business because they might end the world?

If said nation is unwilling to negotiate in good faith? We need to operate with our hands behind our back?

That's a precedent you don't want to set because it essentially greenlights any power with the capability to field nukes the ability to do what they want without repercussions.
 
esmozz said:
My guess is that Crimea is the red line that triggers a nuclear response from Russia. The Russian military there can no longer resupply or retreat and most likely faces total destruction.
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Good. This invasion ends when Russia is defeated. Until Russia is defeated the threat of escalation into a wider conflict remains.

We should all be a lot more concerned than we seem to be.
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I am concerned. Everyone who is actually involved in decision making is concerned. But concern doesn't simply mean capitulation to Putin.
 
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