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25 yobs were going to overthrow the German goverment? :cry:
24 yobs and 1 snob.


Interesting watch, the UK's main manufacturing plant for 155mm shells produces around 10,000 shells a year yet Ukraine probably uses 10,000 in a couple of days. It makes you wonder just how quickly we could ramp up production if we went to war.
 
It makes you wonder just how quickly we could ramp up production if we went to war.

If we had any kind of serious near peer foe to fight they'd probably flatten the site day 1 as it is probably not a hardened site and we probably have limited if any redundancy...
 
Interesting watch, the UK's main manufacturing plant for 155mm shells produces around 10,000 shells a year yet Ukraine probably uses 10,000 in a couple of days. It makes you wonder just how quickly we could ramp up production if we went to war.
Interesting to see!

It does seem like there's a lot of manual involvement at some stages, and with each shell being handled individually at some stages I'd guess that site probably doesn't have much capacity to massively increase production, unless they're only working a couple of shifts a week or something... Any increase in production using that model would need large new specialist facilities and lots of new staff.

Edit: then again at one point they mention the forging process taking 60 seconds per shell (at say an 80% utilisation rate that would be 420,000 shells a year if worked 24/7, much more than the 'tens of thousands' they currently produce) ... Maybe it would be relatively easy to scale up the other bits of the process by adding cnc machines etc, the forging would be the hardest bit of the process to rapidly expand presumably? Getting three shifts of machinists and technicians with the right experience might be hard too, but with a big enough incentive I guess they could filch them from other industry in the area and get them used to the process relatively quickly... Even then I imagine ramping up production to the apparent capacity of the forging process would be quite slow given how much expansion would be required. Says nothing of the other facility that actually puts the bang in them either.
 
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We've done this before,


Its very apparant that everyone's military equipment is basically artisanal low volume production. The very good IRIS-T ground based anti-aircraft missile system that Germany has sent to Ukraine - Germany has a total production capacity of 2 per year.
 
I wonder how long it will be before we get a fully automatic artillery gun that aims, fires, reloads itself once a spotter has indicated a position by say just tapping on a touchpad assuming a gun is within range, though added complexity for something that is going to be getting a lot of use is probably not a good idea unless you're able to produce in the thousands per year.
 
Putin:
- Russia Will Have to Fight for Its National Interests Using All Means
- 150,000 Mobilised Soldiers Are in the Special Military Operation Zone, of Which 77,000 Are with Their Combat Units
- No Sense to Conduct Additional Mobilisation for Now
- Special Military Operation in Ukraine Could Be a Long Process
- We Didn't Start 'The War', It Was Started in 2014 After State Coup
- We Had No Chances to Settle Situation in Ukraine
- Poland Wants to Seize Territories in Western Ukraine
- Russia Could Be the Only Guarantor of Ukraine's Territorial Integrity
- But It's Up to New Leaders of Ukraine
- Threat of Nuclear War is on the Rise
- Russia Considers Nuclear Weapons a Response to an Attack
- Russia Will Defend Its Allies with All Available Means
- We Haven't Deployed Tactical Nuclear Weapons in Any Other Countries Yet, Unlike U.S.
- We Didn't Speak About Usage of Nuclear Weapons
- Russia Has Not Gone Mad
- We Have Most Advanced Weapons, but Do Not Want to Wave It Around
- Russia Considers Such Weapons as Deterrent
https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...nterests-with-all-available-means-2022-12-07/
 
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I wonder how long it will be before we get a fully automatic artillery gun that aims, fires, reloads itself once a spotter has indicated a position by say just tapping on a touchpad assuming a gun is within range, though added complexity for something that is going to be getting a lot of use is probably not a good idea unless you're able to produce in the thousands per year.

Some of the modern self-propelled artillery systems are basically that (AHS Krab for instance) - computer does all the calculations, loading is mostly automated (some of them you still need someone moving the shells from storage compartments though) - I think the functionality isn't enabled but pretty sure they can be remote fired/aimed.
 
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We've done this before,


Its very apparant that everyone's military equipment is basically artisanal low volume production. The very good IRIS-T ground based anti-aircraft missile system that Germany has sent to Ukraine - Germany has a total production capacity of 2 per year.
That’s economics though surely. You can’t have a load of spare manufacturing machines and workers sitting around waiting for the occasional war to utilise. That makes unit costs higher. You’ll spend the money on something else.
They’ll never be enough money.
 
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He actually explains what going on really well if you watch his analysis is good, updates everyday nearly easy to understand.

I was going to say the same, on a high level its giving a good idea of whats going on that seems relatively accurate.
 
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He actually explains what going on really well if you watch his analysis is good, updates everyday nearly easy to understand.

I was going to say the same, on a high level its giving a good idea of whats going on that seems relatively accurate.

And yet still under the employ of that Bastion of truth fueled by Murdoch - Sky News.

Their reports may appear to match current events right now but do you - for even a heartbeat - truly believe you can trust their reports?

That they won't just start pushing opinion pieces as factual when the information gets thin, or doesn't draw in enough viewers so they need to sensationalize things a little more for viewcount?

Let us not for a single moment pretend that companies like Sky News are remotely interested in keeping people informed of events, when we know full well their entire "shtick" is motivated by viewer count and profit alone.



*Edit* I am aware of course that Sky News are not remotely comparable to say, Fox News, but in that same vein they are also no bastion of truth and honesty either - I guess that's all I was trying to say :P
 
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