Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Rroff said:
Similar with some others who are public figures or "journalists" recently who on Twitter have been claiming the war is fake and there is non-existent footage of the war and/or that all the videos and photos are staged in the same big field... then when called out on it start saying there is lacking footage for a war of this scale but strangely when some people from Ukraine's government or press have offered to pay for their plane ticket to Poland and give them a ride to the front lines they find any and all reason not to take them up on the offer.
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Yeah accounts like Catturd, which for some unknown reason Elon just loves to engage with, should be shipped off to the front with a camera and Starlink and they can report back how its all fake while artillery rains down on them.
 
Funny how old trends come round again.

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bris said:
Its a good thing its Russia outright rejecting the peace plan.

Ukraine would have rejected it too but at least they get to say it wasn't them that stopped a chance fore peace.
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Biden also rejected it, so of course right wing media is spinning this as 'WE COULD HAVE HAD PEACE BUT BIDEN RUINED IT!' Not a word of the fact that Putin didn't accept it either.

:rolleyes:
 
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Colonel_Klinck said:
Corbyn was unelectable for very good reasons. He would have pandered to Putin like Trump did but just for very different reasons, the result would have been the same though.
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I voted for Labour when Corbyn was leader, but that was pre-brexit and in "peacetime" (I don't recall war in Europe looking likely in 2017 and 2019)

But I've said on here before I'm glad he wasn't Prime minister when Putin invaded Ukraine.
 
VincentHanna said:
I voted for Labour when Corbyn was leader, but that was pre-brexit and in "peacetime" (I don't recall war in Europe looking likely in 2017 and 2019)

But I've said on here before I'm glad he wasn't Prime minister when Putin invaded Ukraine.
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Although I wanted the Tories to lose I just couldn't vote for Corbyn because I thought he would be a weak leader in the face of a major crisis. The whole idea of an executive is they can act quickly when faced with something like Ukraine. Corbyn would have procrastinated for months and been dragged kicking and screaming into helping Ukraine.
 
With the war in a very attritional phase I wonder if Ukraines reluctance to surrender Bakhmut is partly tied to their preparations for a counter offensive which could be coming soon. Russian forces seem to have absorbed so many assets into capturing this location that it must have left them stretched in other areas whereas Ukraine presumably has been able to defend with less resources. Is Bakhmut just a convenient distraction trap that the disparate Russian forces have fallen into. It may be wishful thinking and overly influenced by western media but the Bakhmut obsession looks like internal Russian folly.
 
Craterloads said:
My dad would just keep repeating he’s an honourable man when it came to Corbyn, which in comparison to his peers was probably accurate.
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Well Corbyn may be an idiot but at least he would do what he says he would do and not say things he has no intention of doing like the Tories.

Honest politicians are rarer than hens teeth..
 
Scougar said:
Are those real?
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Outtake from edited March of Time story "Peace by Adolf Hitler".

USHMM historians suspect that the protest march has been staged for the March of Time camera. People appear to pose for the camera, speeding up to get into the frame and practicing. There were quite a number of anti-interventionist groups on the left and the right at the time. However, the only references to the "American Union for Organization Against War" relate to this film, and the "organization" does not show up in any of the literature of isolationist groups from the period.
Film Source: United States. National Archives and Records Administration. Motion Picture Reference
 
Sankari said:
Funny how old trends come round again.

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Biden also rejected it, so of course right wing media is spinning this as 'WE COULD HAVE HAD PEACE BUT BIDEN RUINED IT!' Not a word of the fact that Putin didn't accept it either.

:rolleyes:
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Hitler didn't have thermonuclear weapons, this isn't the same thing. If Putin didn't have nukes I'd be happy for NATO to defend Russia with ground forces.
 
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Roar87 said:
Hitler didn't have thermonuclear weapons, this isn't the same thing. If Putin didn't have nukes I'd be happy for NATO to defend Russia with ground forces.
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NATO could send every tank, soldier, plane, gun, artillery unit, ration pack, and sleeping bag in their army into Ukraine and Russia still wouldn't drop nukes. I know ol' Poots likes to flop out his nuclear missile out of his pants at every opportunity but it's all bark no bite; he only does it because he thinks there are enough in the West who will back down at the mere threat. The reality is very different. Nukes will be launched at nothing short of a full scale invasion of Russia.

That's the by-the-by though, really, the collective West have made very clear that they'd rather watch Russia atrocity its way across Ukraine than actually get involved.
 
Roar87 said:
Hitler didn't have thermonuclear weapons, this isn't the same thing. If Putin didn't have nukes I'd be happy for NATO to defend Russia with ground forces.
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But NATO isn't even offering to do that, and nobody's asking for it. Even if they did, do you really believe Putin would use nuclear weapons against NATO forces? That would be the end of Russia. Moscow would be nothing but a smoking crater and a faint memory within 15 minutes.

If you're not keen on the West supporting Ukraine, what's your proposal for ending the war?
 
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*Putin: FSB Does Not Have A Secondary Task And Needs To Devote Itself Wholeheartedly
*Putin: Russian Cyberspace And Citizens' Personal Data Must Be Reliably Protected

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*Blinken: Sanctions Are Designed to Halt Russia’s Aggression
*Blinken: We Are Watching Compliance With Sanctions Very Closely
*Blinken: We Will Not Hesitate to Target Chinese Companies and Individuals Who Violate Our Sanctions on Russia
*Blinken: If China Provides Lethal Aid to Russia It Will Be a Serious Problem for China’s Relationship With Countries Around The World
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