Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Rroff said:

2nd flight in a row they've flown quite provocative flight paths - this one did an approach on St Petersburg before turning away and doing a close pass of Kaliningrad, previous one made sure they were seen opposite Sevastopol. Wonder what the motivation for it is.
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Forcing the Russians to have QRA on standby, use time and resources
 
Seems a bit of a pointless "bluff" to keep the Russians on their toes tbh.

If the US was actually going to do something against Russia directly, they would wheel out their stealth aircraft, not a 60+ year old B52 that everyone can see coming.
 
Roar87 said:
Forcing the Russians to have QRA on standby, use time and resources
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It has been very rare for US or NATO combat aircraft to fly close enough to Russian air space to warrant a response over the last few decades, mostly unarmed intel aircraft like the Rivet Joints. Last few months they've been doing these missions with the B-52s but this is by far the most provocative yet. Probably a reminder to Putin as much as anything.
 
Rroff said:
It has been very rare for US or NATO combat aircraft to fly close enough to Russian air space to warrant a response over the last few decades, mostly unarmed intel aircraft like the Rivet Joints. Last few months they've been doing these missions with the B-52s but this is by far the most provocative yet. Probably a reminder to Putin as much as anything.
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I'm pretty sure the US did a lot of long range B-52 patrols in the same way the Russians did with their Tu-95's, it was very tit for tat. It's just we only hear about the Russian bombers. This is unusual though you're right.
 
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Roar87 said:
I'm pretty sure the US did a lot of long range B-52 patrols in the same way the Russians did with their Tu-95's, it was very tit for tat. It's just we only hear about the Russian bombers. This is unusual though you're right.
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They used to, but toned it down a lot the last 20 years or so while the Russians kept on with their probing with the strategic bombers. Most of the patrols in recent years have been well away from Russian interests until this war kicked off.
 
Rroff said:

2nd flight in a row they've flown quite provocative flight paths - this one did an approach on St Petersburg before turning away and doing a close pass of Kaliningrad, previous one made sure they were seen opposite Sevastopol. Wonder what the motivation for it is.
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I wonder what intel they have to send this kind of message


Something rarely seen, we see frequent images of Russian graves but rarely those of Ukrainians who have died defending their territory
 
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Kremlin cuts off Wagner's direct access

Wagner Group boss Yevgeny Prigozhin said he's being punished for making public appeals for more ammunition.
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I hope we will see the end of Yevgeny Prigozhin and Wagner Group soon after he asked for more ammunition then Kremlin cuts off Prigozhin and all Wagner Group offices access to all Russia government communication channels and revoked Prigozhin security clearances passes to all Russia government and military facilities.
 
He's not wrong if you pick the criteria suitably.

The richest country in europe has a terrible armed forces for its size and wealth and the power of the strongest militaries in europe is not in their army but the whole bundle and in two cases, actual nuclear weapons.

It's not a new complaint or statement to say that many countries in europe lean heavily on the ones with a meaningful military should anything happen and call it economic wisdom to not put more into defence.
 
What an absolute mess! :(
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mburn_83 said:
This approach may just accelerate the breakup of Russia.
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This is the way. Economic warfare to breed population unrest plus the threat of conscription to brain drain/cause further unrest. Russias elite will find itself in a really sticky situation when they run out undesirable males and start having to use the Moscovites.
 
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Devilman said:
Seems a bit of a pointless "bluff" to keep the Russians on their toes tbh.

If the US was actually going to do something against Russia directly, they would wheel out their stealth aircraft, not a 60+ year old B52 that everyone can see coming.
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Russia does it to NATO airspace all the time, its just little bit of tit for tat
 
So the Wagner boss is running for Putins job, that means one of them has to Die, both will know it.

So its a duel to the death, FSB V Wagnerites, both sides will have excellent assassins.

My moneys on Putin winning the duel, he seems less exposed than Prigozhin. But who knows money talks and finding someone close to Putin to do the job wouldn't be that hard when the payout would be in the millions.
 
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