Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
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But he rides horses with no shirt on.
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A fine illustration of the story of the Emperor having no clothes.
Sorry, but I don't understand. Cope, NPC?
What's that got to do with your opinions and views only making sense if you were actually Russian.
It feels like they're throwing everything at it now, trying to consolidate what they can before the winter, next year be damned.
I don't see how Russia could continue another year of war like 23, whereas Ukraine are just starting. More and more weapons are headed their way. It's not like their will to fight for their country has diminished at all.
I don't see how Russia could continue another year of war like 23, whereas Ukraine are just starting. More and more weapons are headed their way. It's not like their will to fight for their country has diminished at all.
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And this is what some posters just don't seem to get. They are fighting for the very survival of their country, there is remembered history of what Russia has done to them in the past. Why would they give up?
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Because someone incapable of critical thinking says so.
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How long the civilian population will stand for it is up in the air but they don't show mass signs of discontent so far, it'll take mass discontent to shift the current regime. IMO it'll only be once male population losses start getting noticeable in the richer western/better off city regions of Russia that might happen and currently drafts of manpower from those parts are <1% of the available reserves (the bulk of the man power is drawn from the Russian far east regions).
On paper, ignoring the social side, the Russian population can sustain current losses into the decades, in practise it wouldn't be as long before they were combat ineffective due to the tactical circumstances, etc. but still while no USSR they can sustain the man power losses even at peak levels of this war so far for far longer than people often seem to think.
Equipment is more of a limiting factor - in recent months their daily losses (this will be both equipment lost to enemy action and degradation i.e. due to excessive barrel wear on artillery, etc.) have been between approx. 3x and 30x their ability to replace from both new and repaired sources combined and it is probably 1-2 years before they can ramp up to anything like match those losses. Some of the more advanced stuff they likely won't be able to replace once existing reserves (which are mostly depleted) have gone. At peak levels reached recently they'd have become combat ineffective due to losses of hardware in about 30-40 days if those were sustained but at the average daily loss rate it works out at basically a year give or take (~360 days) for most of the hardware critical to continue their current strategy.
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Problem is the war doesn't just end, saying "the sooner the war ends the better" is an empty pointless statement - almost everyone here, almost anyone sane in general, hopes the war ends sooner rather than later but most people can recognise that wishing it and reality are very different things. There is no realistic path here where Ukraine gives up and there is any kind of happy ending - Russia can't be trusted to negotiate in good faith, there is very little chance Ukraine could compromise on existing occupied territory in exchange for NATO membership and even if that was possible it is far from probable Russia is going to just give up on their goals here and not just use the time to rebuild and then try again in the future.
Ukraine is between a rock and a hard place, and the West dragging out escalating levels of support hasn't helped here, and if you were in their position you'd almost certainly vote to continue fighting to defend what you have while you are still able. When faced with a tyrant appeasement won't save you.
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Oh sweet summer child.
He was out to get the whole eastern Europe if the west was weak and then it would have come after your sweet innocence. Then US would be next. You don't give in, you show strength.
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Okay sure, but what is this based on? Historically Putin hasn't been unfriendly towards the West, he's been on visits here, we've shared WW2 remembrance, he supported the US after 9/11. At the same time he's been pretty clear on his red lines and what they are.
Sounds like the great leader has ordered them to take the land irrespective of how many bodies it takes to achieve his goals.
I wonder how long it will be before we see North Korean and Iranian 'meat' fed into the grinder. They must be close to depleting all their prisoners and ex wagner by now.
I wonder how long it will be before we see North Korean and Iranian 'meat' fed into the grinder. They must be close to depleting all their prisoners and ex wagner by now.
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2:37 Oh how great it must be to Russian:
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I honestly think he admires the guy and thinks he's a good strong leader for the Russian people.
Not that friendly either - Russia has continued to probe NATO airspace with strategic, nuclear capable, bombers long after Western countries switched to mostly unarmed ISR flights with just the occasional B-52, etc. flights to maintain technical capabilities which until this situation kicked off were flying non-inflammatory routes. Engaged subterfuge in the Baltics with submarines and acquiring properties ( https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...to-putin-dmitry-medvedev-police-a8612161.html ) which could be used for military purposes, etc. made mysterious moves around Gotland, including mass "tourist" visits by people attached to the likes of the GRU requiring Sweden to up military preparedness there. Have numerous ships operating around the North Sea, even sailing close to UK coastal waters ( https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-ships-sabotage-north-sea-b2322747.html ), capable of carrying out sabotage activities (many of which were there before this situation, but have increased with this situation).
And so on and so forth...
Not to be trusted.
EDIT: Not to say we don't do a certain amount the other way around to a certain extent, but not in the way Russia maintains it.
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Did the US also probe Russian airspace after the dissolution of the USSR? I'm curious because I can't find anything, but I don't believe they stopped their patrols. I think there's a lot of tit-for-tat done by both sides, it's just a B-52 probing Russian airspace triggering Russian interceptors is never in our news, obviously. I don't defend the Russian invasion, or their use of chemical weapons on UK soil, they deserved the international response they got for that. How ever I don't think Putin ever had the intention of conquering Europe or anything ludicrous, perhaps if he started 20 years ago, but he's also 71. He wouldn't be alive long enough to accomplish anything like that.
I don't know the exact timeline but the US switched to unarmed flights by stuff like the Rivet Joint and Combat Sent RC-135 series aircraft years back now, flights with strategic bombers were toned down a lot since the 2000s.
Personally don't think Putin set out with the intention of a conquest of Europe as a whole, maybe fantasised about it but don't think he has ever considered it seriously, but I'm certain that for years he has been engaged in setting the groundwork for nibbling away at territories formerly under the sphere of the USSR (the signs of it are quite plain in places like Hungary, Slovakia, etc.) and had Ukraine simply folded with little more than a whimper from the West his nature isn't the type to stop until met with resolute force, he'd have continued to push as much as he could. Even now I don't think the danger of a degraded security situation on the periphery of Europe has gone away, if grinding down Ukraine works, even with a weakened Russia.
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