Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
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No one serious about aviation thinks the Su-57 doesn't work lol. What you can say about it is a few things, they don't have very many of them and they can't manufacture the engines they would have liked to be in them. It's still an impressive stealth aircraft. Only the F-22 is really a match for it, which is an achievement.
British intelligence states Russian Air Force operates Su-57 Felon fighters in Ukraine war
British intelligence claims Russian Air Force operates Su-57 Felon fighters in Ukraine warwww.airrecognition.com
Better tell our intelligence services it doesn't work, they seem to think it has been used in combat in Ukraine.
I believe they were using them as a launch platform for the long range "hyper" missiles.
So not really in combat as such.
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This sort of ludicrous lying propaganda has been Kremlin policy for generations. Solzhenitsyn commented on his frustration at it back in the 1950s:
Soldato
As in ALBM Kinzhal KH-47? I'm pretty sure the SU-57 dosnt carry these, they are rather large missiles, also carrying one of these would completely obliterate any low radar cross section of the SU-57 and defeat the purpose of the aircraft.
I'm under the impression that the MIG-31 is the primary launch platform of the Kinzhal, with the large swept wing bombers also capable of using them.
If I remember correctly around that time it was claimed that the SU-57's operated almost solely within Russian territory out of range of Ukrainian defences using its BVR capabilities to target Ukrainian jets.
Deep state people...look through the looking glass...
Or something like that, the gullible will believe them despite the evidence.
Caporegime
Chemical weapons. In a sane world, this would prompt a military response from the UN.
Soldato
The wonders of misinformation. All you have to do is put it out there, and those who want to believe, will.
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Elon will be pushing this story on Twitter soon
Soldato
Ah its the 59 not the 47 so just a normal cruise.
IIRC they were basing them something like 500km from the border. They would fly to closeish to the border launch then scoot away.
The SU57 deffo has armaments available that pretty much destroy the stealth aspects.
I was confused as they are developing a KH47 version that fits inside the stealth bays of the SU57. (Alledgedly)
Soldato
Someone has been watching and playing too much DCS, the SU-57 is not very stealthy compared to both the F22 and F35 and would be blown out of the sky before even got close enough to engage either.No one serious about aviation thinks the Su-57 doesn't work lol. What you can say about it is a few things, they don't have very many of them and they can't manufacture the engines they would have liked to be in them. It's still an impressive stealth aircraft. Only the F-22 is really a match for it, which is an achievement.
British intelligence states Russian Air Force operates Su-57 Felon fighters in Ukraine war
British intelligence claims Russian Air Force operates Su-57 Felon fighters in Ukraine war
Better tell our intelligence services it doesn't work, they seem to think it has been used in combat in Ukraine.
Could you give us some sources on this?
Soldato
It has visible fan blades due to a lack of Serpentine air intakes, very very poor build quality, lacks radar absorbent material and its IR pod is right on the front of the nose, all of which kills its Stealth. its more comparable to a gen 4.5 aircraft, dont get me wrong it will be a good aircraft but wont be anywhere of a match for an F22/F35 or even a J20
The Su-57 is marketed as stealth fighter but radars have between 6 to 10 times greater detection range against the Felon compared to F-22 & F-35. Here’s why. - The Aviation Geek Club
The Su-57 is marketed as stealth fighter but radars have between 6 to 10 times greater detection range against the Felon than the F-22 & F-35
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Why are mentioning my name? Did a mod not tell you to stop piling on?
You ever seen any pictures of the rivets on the su-57 or intakes...or even looked at it ?
Not even close to anything 5th gen western style.
Yeah I don't think it's close to the F-22 or F-35 either. I just said it could enter contested airspace better than 4th gen fighters. People could argue with a brick wall in here.
Fair enough, your post across as it being similar.
I believe it would struggle though, proof in that they won't let it anywhere near contested airspace.
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Are Ukraine getting full Link-16 capability? If so I'm impressed that US has OK'd that. Potentially a very powerful capability. Be grand if someone were to "loan" an E3! 
Right, same with China. By Western standards it's completely absurd but is the entire point as you cannot move forward when the other party plays these games.This sort of ludicrous lying propaganda has been Kremlin policy for generations. Solzhenitsyn commented on his frustration at it back in the 1950s:
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