Perhaps, but then you have rednecks and the like in Europe/UK who believe this crap, personally know a few who would believe China/Russia over any western source.
Baffling, but it works.
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Perhaps, but then you have rednecks and the like in Europe/UK who believe this crap, personally know a few who would believe China/Russia over any western source.
Baffling, but it works.
Spokesperson for Ukraine's airforce says the F16's Ukraine is receiving have been modified by the US, they've added a upgraded radar system to the planes which increases the range of the radar
It's hard to know what radar the planes have been upgraded too. Older F16s were flying around with radar that could detect targets at 150km and engage targets at 50km. There was an upgrade program to change this to a new radar with 300km detection range.
But there is also currently a new program to equip an even further upgraded radar system which increases target engagement range to 150km and allows for engaging multiple targets at once.
Its hard to know what Ukraine is getting but if their F16s have the full upgrades that are technically available then they'd be able to detect targets over 300km and engage targets 150km away
It's hard to know what radar the planes have been upgraded too. Older F16s were flying around with radar that could detect targets at 150km and engage targets at 50km. There was an upgrade program to change this to a new radar with 300km detection range.
But there is also currently a new program to equip an even further upgraded radar system which increases target engagement range to 150km and allows for engaging multiple targets at once.
Its hard to know what Ukraine is getting but if their F16s have the full upgrades that are technically available then they'd be able to detect targets over 300km and engage targets 150km away
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Those people are traitors and should be dealt with how they want to deal with other people they don't like, summary and final.
I mean As unpalatable as Pro-Russians are, I'm not sure thats the answer...
For Russia, China, North Korea truth is what they want it to be. If some truth will damage party or country in the eyes of others simply deny it, no matter what. If you then control enough of the country to enforce that truth then who is to say otherwise? (or dare risk counter it). It’s mostly for the internal population, especially China. This mo has been the same forever and eventually the concept of truth becomes rather meaningless when looked through that lens’s. To the West it’s kind of ridiculous when you have absolute proof of genocide in China and Russia invading Crimea but they just respond with “We disagree”. How do you even approach that? You can’t. The Western way is to provide more evidence but they will say it’s lies so the conversation goes no further.
Boris reminds me of this. He’s a pathological liar but for him it’s not about right or wrong, truth or lie but what advantage you can gain by simply saying what people want to hear. Your wife, boss, co-workers, children. It forms such a core part of his personality you have wonder if he truly cares about anyone or just sees it as a stepping stone toward an opportunity. Trump has taken it to extremes of course.
If some Western public believe the propaganda they’ve been exposed to from Russia, China then even better. In the end it’s just an extension of the huge huge programs that have internally within these countries for the longest times.
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He’s just trying to be helpful. It’s the type of Russian revisionist propaganda we know you like.
We thought he was talking about someone else
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No point in giving them anything that's not at least as capable as Russia is flying. The whole point in giving them F-16's and going through all the rigmarole of upgrading runways, taking thier best pilots out of action for an extended period for retraining was to allow them to get local air superiority.
Historically the west has always overestimated the capabilities of Soviet and Russian equipment. The MIG-25 which had western war planners scrambling which resulted in the F-15, when we got to test the MiG-25 it turned out it wasn't all it was cracked up to be and instead of being a fighter it was made to be an interceptor. The latest SU's and MIG's may be upgraded with good paper specs but those planes haven't exactly excelled in this war.
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That's asking a lot for the handful of F-16's Ukraine is initially getting. I'd wager an Ukrainian F-16 would be more then capable holding it's own against anything the Russians fly but Ukraine has a lot of contested air space, one squadron is not going to be anywhere near enough to push the whole Russian air force away
Considering one Patriot was enough to shut down the Russian Air Force in southern Ukraine, I'd wager you over estimate the Russian airforce
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Maybe, but Ukraine only has 2 or 3 of these Patriots systems though (apparently Japan is going to send them a battery as well) and there going to busy protecting the power system from ballistic missiles this winter.
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Whilst on paper they have a large force one wonders how much is actually serviceable.
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Oh do we need permission to use your username? Its not a pile on, its me posting something you would likely post, hence "in before Roar". You have posted such content before.
Yeah you're assigning opinions to me I haven't expressed in order to get people in this thread to pile on. Just reply to things I have said directly, stop indirectly trying to bully me. I've no idea why the mods let you post in the way you do, you're cowardly, snide and dishonest.
Cite a single example of "such content" I've posted before, or if you can't stop lying.
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Looks like a patriot strikes again against the Russian air force.
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Russian SU-30 or SU-34 shot down after attacking Odesa is what I'm reading on Telegram and now Twitter 
Edit: It might be both an SU-34 AND an SU-30
Edit: It might be both an SU-34 AND an SU-30
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Didn't you get a thread ban?
Have any strikes been successful against the power grid this year? We're well into winter already.
Surprising that we've heard nothing... Almost seems they havnt tried yet, you'd have expected to see stats of downed drones/missiles if they were making any concerted efforts.
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Must be saving all the best missiles up again!
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