Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
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Definitely another record contender.
Russia can’t be negotiated with in its current state. Negotiations are pointless unless you want to surrender Ukraine to Putin and see Ukrainians massacred.
Soldato
To negotiate with Putin you at least need to show him that you are prepare and willing confront him with force and that he will lose. We aren’t there yet.
It’s a lie to say we haven’t tried to give him the benefit of the doubt… multiple times.
It’s a lie to say we haven’t tried to give him the benefit of the doubt… multiple times.
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I think hes happy to do that if it means his utility bills go down.
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He’s too old apparently. Just wants to live out his is final years in comfort and leave the rest of us to deal with the long term consequences.
Scientists estimate how many lives cost of living crisis may have claimed
‘The mortality impacts of inflation and real-terms income reduction are likely to be large and negative’
www.independent.co.uk
The cost of living crisis probably amounts to over 45,000 deaths in the UK alone, ignoring the rest of the World. I'm comfortable, I buy a lot of crap each month and my bank balance still moves up, a lot of people aren't in that position though.
And he won't stop there either... Look at what putin does, not what he says...
He annxed crimea, not much fuss was made about that so now he's looking to annex all the Ukraine regions on the eastern flank of the country in the chaos of a full scale invasion, and looking to keep them too as part of any 'agreement'
Until he pushes for more..
The BBC documentary is fascinating to watch..interviews of all the major political players... Even the in interviews with boris johnson are a rare sight of him actualy talking sense for a change!
It's no secret putin wants to take all ex USSR territory and then some...
He annxed crimea, not much fuss was made about that so now he's looking to annex all the Ukraine regions on the eastern flank of the country in the chaos of a full scale invasion, and looking to keep them too as part of any 'agreement'
Until he pushes for more..
The BBC documentary is fascinating to watch..interviews of all the major political players... Even the in interviews with boris johnson are a rare sight of him actualy talking sense for a change!
It's no secret putin wants to take all ex USSR territory and then some...
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The only long term solution to that is to move away from reliance on Russian gas.Scientists estimate how many lives cost of living crisis may have claimed
‘The mortality impacts of inflation and real-terms income reduction are likely to be large and negative’
The cost of living crisis probably amounts to over 45,000 deaths in the UK alone, ignoring the rest of the World. I'm comfortable, I buy a lot of crap each month and my bank balance still moves up, a lot of people aren't in that position though.
If putin takes Ukraine just imagine what he'll do to grain prices?
Spoiler alert.. He'll use that as a tool of blackmail aswell.
Soldato
Scientists estimate how many lives cost of living crisis may have claimed
‘The mortality impacts of inflation and real-terms income reduction are likely to be large and negative’
The cost of living crisis probably amounts to over 45,000 deaths in the UK alone, ignoring the rest of the World. I'm comfortable, I buy a lot of crap each month and my bank balance still moves up, a lot of people aren't in that position though.
All of whom could have been helped by our government, if they were not a Brexit enabled shower of incompetents.
I bet when you look at them the vast majority who have died had no way to secure higher income, and so needed better government support.
I wonder how many would die if the Vatniks, tankies and cowards got their way and a
And then how many would die the next time Putin decided to rewrite some medieval history to support an invasion of another country.
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Perhaps all those advocating for "peace" (forced capitulation) should be made to sign a legally binding contract that should Russia restart / continue the conflict, they will be the first individuals sent to the front lines.
After all, if they truly believe that Ukraine should give up chunks of it's country to a hostile aggressor under the guise of "peace negotiations" then they should be the first to be turned into cannon fodder when the conflict continues / resumes.
I bet plenty of those little vatniks sucking up to Putin would be the first to cry "you can't make me do that!!!" .
What say you @Roar87 ?
You keep advocating for Ukraine to give up it's territory to gain "Peace" with Russia. You so certain that Putin doesn't want to take the whole of Ukraine that you'd be willing to put your money where your mouth is and fight to defend them when Russia inevitably continues / resumes the conflict after your "Peace" ?
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Yep peace for Russia, a loss of country and culture for Ukrainians and god knows how many thousands disappear into Putin's gulag system, never to be seen again. That of course on top of the 10s of thousands of stolen children.
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With one foot on his neck and a finger on a trigger contemplating if to squeeze or deliver to the Hague.
Soldato
Scientists estimate how many lives cost of living crisis may have claimed
‘The mortality impacts of inflation and real-terms income reduction are likely to be large and negative’
The cost of living crisis probably amounts to over 45,000 deaths in the UK alone, ignoring the rest of the World. I'm comfortable, I buy a lot of crap each month and my bank balance still moves up, a lot of people aren't in that position though.
So you have too much and other people don’t have enough.
If only there was a solution to this problem that didn’t mean throwing Ukraine under a bus.
Until now.
The reason that Ukraine are forbidden from using HIMARS, Stormshadow and SCALP against targets in Russia is because the USA/Britain/France are all nuclear powers, Germany on the other hand is not and so using Taurus wouldn't have anywhere near the potential ramifications and so won't be as explicitly barred from use against Russian targets (of course it doesn't mean the Germans won't dictate limits on it's uses, it just means they don't have to).
For those new to the thread, the issue with using US/British/French weapons against actual Russian territory is that it would give Russia legal grounds to respond with tactical nuclear weapons, and this is a can of worms nobody wants to go near.
The added comedy is that Russia have blatantly broken the rule of the Budapest Memorandum on respecting Ukraine's independence and sovereignty, the rule on the use of force against them, the rule on using economic coercion against them, etc etc. But as soon as Ukraine would hit Russia itself with HIMARS, Stormshadow or SCALP you know they'd be screaming about how Ukraine had violated article 5 of the BM >.>
Ukraine already have weapons capable of doing that it's just they're either old like the S-125/200 or small like drones.
Well you see, in 500AD the building blocks for what would be the British Empire started to take form when...I'm less interested in what Boris would say than Putins history lessons.
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Zelenskyy was never planning to accept that Russian deal, Boris just affirmed support/agreement for his decision.
He's not confused, he just understands the subject matter so is commenting appropriately, I can understand how that may appear confusing to somebody who doesn't.
This is because Boris is a private citizen and expects to be paid for his time, especially when it will make the interviewer and their platform a large amount of money. It's no different than asking to interview Michael Jackson or Clint Eastwood and being quoted a fee.
That's because he's a politician and giving interviews is part of the job, and also he hand picked Tucker to interview him for his own political gain. If anything he should have been paying Tucker for the service.
As above it's been explained to you multiple times.
The reason for this is that in a thread discussing important factual matters such as this it's always important to call out and correct misinformation when it's posted. Otherwise if people just ignore it or the posters producing it then it will stay there uncorrected and be easily findable by people searching Google, or the forum or just browsing the thread. In recent times failure to challenge misinformation and fake news has become one of the biggest contributors to it's spread.
Obviously some posters are incorrect more frequently than others, hence why some have numerous replies from people correcting their misinformation/fake news.
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Soldato
It's important to call out disinformation and hold people to account otherwise other people who are browsing this thread might take what is being said as fact.
I haven't posted misinformation and you haven't called anything out, don't flatter yourself.
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