United States Grand Prix 2012, Austin - Race 19/20
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Missed the race but just read on Sky that Alonso gained a place on the grid because of a non existent gearbox problem and didn't have to pass Webber or Raikkonen because of problems with their cars and/or a pitstop?
Surprised there hasn't been the same outcry that monopolised the thread after Vettel got lucky in the last race
Alonso also had a problem in the pits and also had an off. Wasnt plain sailing for him either.
What Vettel got away with compared to Alonso in this race, compares to bloody murder I would say.
Surprised there hasn't been the same outcry that monopolised the thread after Vettel got lucky in the last race
Just don't like Vettel that much.
(no point in beating about the bush on this one)
Waste of resources tbh
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Well Hamilton lost a half second to a backmarker one lap, Vettel wasn't close enough to take advantage, also the HRT wasn't holding him up for half that sequence of turns, he caught up to him pretty much right in the slowest corner anyway(so it looked worse because they were all slowing down) and he got out of the way the first chance he had.
However, Hamilton gained a huge amount EVERY sector 1 in the race, that was the Mclaren sector. Fact is he was gaining every single lap at that stage, and sure, he was helped, but it only sped up his chance to over take by a lap or two. I'm fairly sure at other stages of Hamilton chasing him Hamilton dropped back for a lap because of a back marker helping Vettel get away also.
Either way, bit lame that Davidson and no one else really highlighted that Vettel was weaving, even though a small amount, and turned towards Hamilton just as Hamilton went for the overtake, it was Vettel's fault they were so close.
Good win.... not too sure about a great race. Schumi couldn't have helped Button out more if he tried, he pushed everyone behind Alonso WAY WAY back right into Button, then Button used the clear air to do gain time before his pits. If Schumi hadn't held everyone up I don't think Button would have done as well, but the Lotus's and Massa might have been a lot closer to Alonso at the end.
Schumi was great though, that train of car's through sector 1 for the first 1/3rd of the race produces so many overtakes, kept everyone in the DRS window of the people around them, and it just looked awesome seeing 7-8 cars weave through sector 1.
Vettel got away with murder? What did he do?
Also, nobody has said anything about Massa, but finishing just behind Alonso after being pushed back down the grid is a brilliant drive. He was faster than him for a lot of the race too. He needs a decent pat on the back.
Waste of 2 grid slots.
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Missed the race but just read on Sky that Alonso gained a place on the grid because of a non existent gearbox problem and didn't have to pass Webber or Raikkonen because of problems with their cars and/or a pitstop?
Surprised there hasn't been the same outcry that monopolised the thread after Vettel got lucky in the last race
Webber's car failed, Alonso was 4th behind Lewis after the first or second corner due to a great start... I'm not entirely convinced he wouldn't have done just as well on the other side of the track. Lewis didn't have the best start, but Kimi on the "bad" side had a fantastic start, and the Ferrari's have jumped loads of cars at almost every race this season at the start... the Ferrari's are just epic off the grid.
Agreed. It is excellent. I have Virgin 30meg and watched the whole thing at the highest bit rate (looks between sd and hdtv) and not one hitch or buffer. Flawless.
It was a bit iffy tonight, especially early on in the race, however when the feed is at best I think it is better than SD on normal digital TV which tends to be compressed on freeview/sat.
Hmm, i wonder if I'm one grade below you.
What are you watching on?
I'm gonna see if I can try and get some up scaling for next year lol
I had a couple of buffers but we don't get much more than 150-200KBytesps usually
Used to be 50-70KBytesps but must be better now to stream that
I did have it go pixel crazy at one point (probably when I was hitting 60KBps
Better that than buffering
Also it will allow me to catch it when out. As I'm on 3 on my mobile. Pretty nice
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Result
Championship
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[b]Pos Driver Team Time[/b]
1. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1h35:55.269
2. Vettel Red Bull-Renault + 0.600
3. Alonso Ferrari + 39.200
4. Massa Ferrari + 46.000
5. Button McLaren-Mercedes + 56.400
6. Raikkonen Lotus-Renault + 1:04.400
7. Grosjean Lotus-Renault + 1:10.300
8. Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes + 1:13.700
9. Maldonado Williams-Renault + 1:14.500
10. Senna Williams-Renault + 1:15.100
11. Perez Sauber-Ferrari + 1:24.300
12. Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari + 1:24.800
13. Rosberg Mercedes + 1:25.500
14. Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari + 1 lap
15. Di Resta Force India-Mercedes + 1 lap
16. Schumacher Mercedes + 1 lap
17. Petrov Caterham-Renault + 1 lap
18. Kovalainen Caterham-Renault + 1 lap
19. Glock Marussia-Cosworth + 1 lap
20. Pic Marussia-Cosworth + 2 laps
21. De la Rosa HRT-Cosworth + 2 laps
22. Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth + 2 lapsChampionship
Code:
[b]Drivers: Constructors: [/b]
1. Vettel 273 1. Red Bull-Renault 440
2. Alonso 260 2. Ferrari 367
3. Raikkonen 206 3. McLaren-Mercedes 353
4. Hamilton 190 4. Lotus-Renault 302
5. Webber 167 5. Mercedes 136
6. Button 163 6. Sauber-Ferrari 124
7. Massa 107 7. Force India-Mercedes 99
8. Grosjean 96 8. Williams-Renault 76
9. Rosberg 93 9. Toro Rosso-Ferrari 22
10. Perez 66
11. Kobayashi 58
12. Hulkenberg 53
13. Di Resta 46
14. Maldonado 45
15. Schumacher 43
16. Senna 31
17. Vergne 12
18. Ricciardo 10