I don't think Ferrari asked permission from the FIA. That's the difference.
United States Grand Prix 2013, Austin - Race 18/19
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I don't think Ferrari asked permission from the FIA. That's the difference.
So as long as you ask, it is OK to break the rules.
This. Seems odd that a seal can be broken with permission to simply poke around.
I suppose the FIA have painted themselves I to a corner a bit. They have enforced rules mandating reliable components, but need to ensure they don't fail for small reasons.
As per the rules. You can break the seal and replace many parts, only replacing certian part or breaking seal without fia permission is punishable. The point is save money, by not throwing away the gearbox after every race. But someparts can be replaced to keep reliabilty up. Rather than just starting a race with a knowen broken gearbox and retiring after one lap.
This attention and response is a load of rubbish. Its allowed in the rules, nothing changed.
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Victoria Vowles.
Nice but i will take one of the grid girls instead ")
So as long as you ask, it is OK to break the rules.
No rules have been broken, read the rule book.
Plenty of parts are allowed to be replaced, only certian parts cant be.
But the point is RBR didn't know they had a damaged gearbox. They broke the seal to look.
The rules contradict their purpose. They should be used for 5 races and sealed to prevent maintenance and replacement of parts, yet asking to have a look means a team can rebuild their "sealed" gearboxes every weekend.
The issue is the rules, again.
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Wasn't suggested that it was against the letter of the rules, just the spirit of the rules.
As for attention and reponse, well this is a discussion forum. It's being discussed. Deal with it.
Wasn't suggested that it was against the letter of the rules, just the spirit of the rules.
As for attention and reponse, well this is a discussion forum. It's being discussed. Deal with it.
How does it go against the sprit of the rule, when its specifically allowed and written into said rule.
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Nice hat Nige!
Rebuilding a gearbox every weekend without any evidence of damage or need to replace anything is not in the rules.
They did replace a part.
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By the first 10 laps vimto is 10 secs in front, webber has a kers failure and the hulk is holding everyone else up.
Only after they stripped the gearbox.
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The headline was sealed gearboxes that last 5 races to save money. I've seen the rule, I dug it up and posted it earlier in the season. Italy perhaps?
RBR keep cracking them open to take a ganders, then there's a 50% chance they change parts like the dog rings. As Skeeter says, it's Triggers broom syndrome. My opinion is the sealed means sealed. Let them change the oil etc but that's it, otherwise they fit a new unit and take the penalty as set out in the rules. It's not routine maintenance. When my car goes in for a big service they don't crack open the gearbox to inspect the synchromesh.
Lol, hoow do you replace something without stripping it.
Your opinion means sod all in this isntance. Your opin ion does not overide f1 rules.
Want the rules changed, fine. But to say they're going against the spirit of the rule, or cheating etc. is just utter bs.
Its not routine maintance. They have to show the fia they think something is wrong, before being allowed to open it up.