University creates "no whites" zones

[Craterloads]

Anyway, this is now pointless.

Thread title fails to accurately convey actual story, student accommodation has stupid racist rule that no-one here agrees with nor supported by the university and @Chris Wilson is being his usual self which surprises no-one.

I'm out

Perfect for GD on all levels then, inaccurate and “white man true victim of racism” vibe.

 

[C Kent]

Anyway, this is now pointless.

Thread title fails to accurately convey actual story, student accommodation has stupid racist rule that no-one here agrees with nor supported by the university and @Chris Wilson is being his usual self which surprises no-one.

I'm out

If the campus in question is on the list of endorsed off-campus sites that the university points students towards then yes they are indeed supporting segregation. The video taken from the independent is about spaces designed to not include white students on university grounds, current activists in American universities are trying to undo decades of progress made by the American civil rights movements and segregate people based on the color of their skin, because they are morons.

 

[Dis86]

So...the university doesn't support the frat but is not speaking out against it. What is it some of the BLM chumps love to chant over there? 'Silence is violence!'.

Whilst over here (not this story again grandpa) I went to uni with a guy who was accused of rape. The accusation was not that it took place on a university premises but a private property. Before he was even charged he'd been kicked out of uni and evicted from his dorm.
Myself and several others knew he was innocent. We had a pretty good grasp of what had happened and even provided statements to the police of that effect. Despite this he was charged and appeared in court where it was only then that the 'victim' admitted she'd made the whole thing up because she'd cheated on her fiancé with him and had been caught so claimed he'd forced himself upon her.

She was allowed to carry on with her degree after receiving inflated marks due to the trauma she'd 'suffered'. He was told he could rejoin his course a year later but the fees he'd paid to date wouldn't be refunded and that because of the rape charge he'd received he almost certainly would never get a job in his chosen career - teacher.

 

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[Murphy]

Cancel culture is out of control i tell ya'. If a private landlord doesn't think his tenants have the mental fortitude to cope with certain people being in a common area then that's the landlords choice, would people be claiming misogyny if a woman's shelter didn't allow men in the common areas? Would they be trying to whip up outrage in the hope that women's shelters change their policies or close?

 

[C Kent]

would people be claiming misogyny if a woman's shelter didn't allow men in the common areas? Would they be trying to whip up outrage in the hope that women's shelters change their policies or close?

well there's been tons of outrage from the usual because some women's shelters aren't allowing trans women in, does that count ?

 

[Dis86]

Cancel culture is out of control i tell ya'. If a private landlord doesn't think his tenants have the mental fortitude to cope with certain people being in a common area then that's the landlords choice, would people be claiming misogyny if a woman's shelter didn't allow men in the common areas? Would they be trying to whip up outrage in the hope that women's shelters change their policies or close?

No blacks, no dogs, no Irish. Am I right?

 

[NVP]

It's such a shame our older generations have been totally consumed with anger and frothiness over such issues.

I don't think they have, not at all, the issue is born to the few who have no exposure of others daily lives. In a town or city generally integration has occurred and it is the older generations with larger mixed circles than the middle aged, and the youth today have followed suit nicely.

From my perspective it appears it is those who do not get this type of daily integration of lives (whether older or not) that remain in fear and require separation for their own mental wellbeing.

 

[GGizmo]

If a white person agrees with the ban and doesn't want to associate with black people either, would that person be racist?

With stories like this we're seeing the acceptable face of racism. Once this becomes an accepted principle in society its just one step away from other groups using the same principle.

 

[Murphy]

well there's been tons of outrage from the usual because some women's shelters aren't allowing trans women in, does that count ?

Who a woman's shelter chooses to let in is entirely up to them IMO, i personally don't care either way as it's not something that effects me. But either way i wouldn't be trying to cancel them simply for making that choice like some people seemingly want to do with the decision of this private landlord.

No blacks, no dogs, no Irish. Am I right?

No, although it's impressive how much you missed the point.

If you've been a victim of constant abuse, physical or mental, from a black person then sure it's your right to say you don't want to be around black people, if you've been attacked by dogs then you should be allowed to say you don't want to be around dogs, etc, etc. (Does that clear things up for you?)

 

[Quartz]

Why would you even bother looking at Daily Mail

Relying solely on the Daily Mail - or any other news source - for your news demonstrates stupidity, ignorance, and bigotry.

Ignoring and dismissing the Daily Mail - or any other news source - completely also demonstrates stupidity, ignorance, and bigotry. If you don't know what they're saying, how can you argue against it? And how do you know that they're not right?

It's important to read a variety of news sources. I read the Telegraph and the Guardian and the BBC every day and the Times when opportunity permits. But I don't ignore the Mail or the Mirror or even the Sun, and if a link takes me there, so be it. I even, on occasion, go there directly.

But politics these days - especially online - is the new religion. And those not following the One True Faith are to be shunned.

 

[Dis86]

Who a woman's shelter chooses to let in is entirely up to them IMO, i personally don't care either way as it's not something that effects me.

No, although it's impressive how much you missed the point.

If you've been a victim of constant abuse, physical or mental, from a black person then sure it's your right to say you don't want to be around black people, if you've been attacked by dogs then you should be allowed to say you don't want to be around dogs, etc, etc. (Does that clear things up for you?)

But you don't have that right. Applying the negative aspect of one individual to all that share similar characteristics, in this case race, is racism.

Just because I was robbed by a black guy (I wasnt) does it mean all black guys will rob me? Nope.

 

[dlockers]

Guys it's Saturday morning, go outside and be productive

 

[Dis86]

Guys it's Saturday morning, go outside and be productive

Its raining.

 

[Murphy]

If a white person agrees with the ban and doesn't want to associate with black people either, would that person be racist?

Depends on the reason they don't want to associate with black people. The definition of racism is "A person who is prejudiced against or antagonistic towards people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized." My emphasis because prejudice is defined as a "Preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience." so if someone had a valid reason or experience for being antagonistic towards people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group then it wouldn't be racist.

Just like a woman who has been the victim of abuse from males wouldn't be a misandrist because they have a valid reason and/or lived experience.

But you don't have that right. Applying the negative aspect of one individual to all that share similar characteristics, in this case race, is racism.

Just because I was robbed by a black guy (I wasnt) does it mean all black guys will rob me? Nope.

See above and learn what racism is.

 

[Dis86]

Depends on the reason they don't want to associate with black people. The definition of racism is "A person who is prejudiced against or antagonistic towards people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized." My emphasis because prejudice is defined as a "Preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience." so if someone had a valid reason or experience for being antagonistic towards people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group then it wouldn't be racist.

See above and learn what racism is.

Yes and again, because I was robbed by one black person does not mean all black people will rob me...it is not based on reason. You said it yourself.
One does not represent the whole.

 

[Diddums]

Bob on, nailed it, im like the reverse KKK.

Bad racist! Go sit in the corner and think about what you've done

 

[Murphy]

Yes and again, because I was robbed by one black person does not mean all black people will rob me...it is not based on reason. You said it yourself.
One does not represent the whole.

Look i know your doing this on purpose but it does make you look a bit daft, what part of "If you've been a victim of constant abuse" was it that you didn't understand.

A single instance of being robbed by a black person should not lead a reasonable person to believe that all black people are the same, if on the other hand you've been robbed by a black person 10 times in the last year then you'd perhaps start to believe all black people are robbers. Honestly i can't believe I'm having to explain something so obvious to you but i suspect you're being deliberately obtuse because you think you're making some sort of point when in fact you're just embarrassing yourself.

 

[C Kent]

Depends on the reason they don't want to associate with black people. The definition of racism is "A person who is prejudiced against or antagonistic towards people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized." My emphasis because prejudice is defined as a "Preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience." so if someone had a valid reason or experience for being antagonistic towards people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group then it wouldn't be racist.

Just like a woman who has been the victim of abuse from males wouldn't be a misandrist because they have a valid reason and/or lived experience.

See above and learn what racism is.

Why do you feel the need to add the caveat of "typically one that is a minority or marginalized"?
What about say a 20 year old white South African that's been a victim of 'constant abuse", moves to a country with a majority white population, would he be racist if he held prejudiced views against black people?

 

[Dis86]

Look i know your doing this on purpose but it does make you look a bit daft, what part of "If you've been a victim of constant abuse" was it that you didn't understand.

A single instance of being robbed by a black person should not lead a reasonable person to believe that all black people are the same, if on the other hand you've been robbed by a black person 10 times in the last year then you'd perhaps start to believe all black people are robbers. Honestly i can't belive I'm having to explain this to you but i suspect you're being deliberately obtuse because you think you making some sort of point when in fact your just embarrassing yourself.

But that doesn't fit the definition you posted...