Unmarried couples caught in Malaysia hotel raids
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I think Muslim people would be charged if they were caught doing it on a beach in Dubai.
Laws in the UK are often based on morals, eg drug and obsenity laws, rather than harm, human rights and actual benefit to society.
People in the UK don't expect muslims to follow stupid UK laws either. It's about logic and ethics, not "west is best"...
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Who cares, let them do what they want over there.
I dont live there.
I dont live there.
I think you have to respect other cultures. By all means respect the country's laws in which you reside. It's quite funny to see people posting in one thread about respecting a country's laws and then starting a thread criticising another country's method of rule and beliefs.
My point was that the authorities would probably turn a blind eye to tourists doing stuff if it was behind doors, however Muslims would not be allowed engage in non marital sexual activity regardless.
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close proximity,
doesn't roll off the tongue as easy when caught out and clainming you accidentally fell over and stuck your whatsit in her doodah.
doesn't roll off the tongue as easy when caught out and clainming you accidentally fell over and stuck your whatsit in her doodah.
Wow, journalism standards are the BBC are really slipping, they can't even spell moronic
There are so many things wrong with this statement its ridiculous.
Firstly your arguing a system that allows you the freedom to argue the system, which is awfully contradictory.
Secondly, the only real laws that apply to people here are ones that keep the peace between people and state, if you feel the need to keep up your own customs and traditions, you are not banned from doing so and you may practice them to your hearts content, as long as they do no cause conflicting problems with people or state. (I think its called freedom)
In fact in many cases it is encouraged.
( I would love to know what is banned in this country that is a tradition or custom, that does not conflict with human rights and common sense).
I have no respect for a culture that's based on theocracy, it's ludicrous. I think it's disgusting that such laws exist and I'm grateful everyday that I live in the UK, a country that's centuries more evolved than the theocratic nations of Malaysia, Iran and even America.
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It may be because they have a completely different perception of marriage over there, making it pretty much impossible for you to comprehend.
In some ways it's a chicken and egg situation.... in western culture, you typically think "OK, I now know and like that person. So we'll get married". Whereas in some cultures, it may be a case of "I want to get to know that person better, and the route to doing that, is by getting married".
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So just claim not to be muslim and court and return to a slightly more sane life?
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so let me get this right.
western countries on the whole will go out of their way to accommodate the different beliefs and cultures of others but not vice versa?
if thats the case then we shouldnt allow muslim women to wear veils and bring back school nativity amongst others.
western countries on the whole will go out of their way to accommodate the different beliefs and cultures of others but not vice versa?
if thats the case then we shouldnt allow muslim women to wear veils and bring back school nativity amongst others.
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Illegal to have sex with someone you are not married too.
Bloody retards.
We could always invade and "liberate" them for a small cost of just a few natural resources..
But then again up until recently we weren't much better.
Bloody retards.
We could always invade and "liberate" them for a small cost of just a few natural resources..
But then again up until recently we weren't much better.
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The thing is, just because they are unenlightened doesn't mean we shouldn't be. 2 wrongs don't make a right, it is about setting an example.
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but the only law they understand is eye for an eye. so why not? its quite an easy one. treat others how you would want to be treated yourselves and see how they( who ever the offender is) like it.
I feel I should pick up on this point. My objection to this is an objection to their culture. I could disagree more with the concept of a theocratic body, let alone a fascist theocratic government as seen in almost every middle eastern country. It's a ridiculous thing to compare us to them, like for like. We live in a culture and a society that is centuries more advanced and evolved than that of Malaysia, or Iran for example. Our laws are a hundred times more moral, more equal, and in my opinion, outright better.
My problem is with the theocratic culture as a whole, not individual cases of it.