**Unofficial Tyre Thread**

Just got a set of CSC 5s fitted to my spanking, newly refurbished MV2s. All is good in the world.
 
[TW]Fox;30039800 said:
I'd recommend just sending it to Continental. I don't think I've ever met a tyre 'specialist'.
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No, I think you're right. I did pause as I wrote that, but figured there *may* be someone, somewhere, that knew about tyres more than the average tyre fitter :p
 
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The photo was taken on a phone, nothing special? :p

Gaygle said:
Weird.

Maybe one of the steel wires running through the tyre has broken and indented on the wall? I'd recommend taking it to a tyre specialist and sending that photo to Continental to see if they know what it is?
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I've sent them a message with the photo. Just awaiting their reply. You guys might recall I had a similar issue with one of my Sessantas several years back and Vredestein authorised a replacement after sending one of their engineers out to collect the tyre.

Let's see how Continental handle the situation!
 
Well Continental UK has advised me to take it to the dealer for inspection... The dealer being Camskill, so that's a no go.

Vredestein did me well before by sending someone out to inspect it at home. I would have thought Continental would have done the same, seeing as they're a bigger brand.
 
mrk said:
Well Continental UK has advised me to take it to the dealer for inspection... The dealer being Camskill, so that's a no go.
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Surely they meant any dealer.

Why would a company who has an authorised dealer network send somebody to your house to look at a 150 quid product?!

The shock here is that Vredstein did that, not that Conti won't. It'd have been cheaper to just post you a free tyre!
 
stulid said:
http://www.evo.co.uk/features/18309/the-best-tyres-2016-evo-tyre-test
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Evo said:
In contrast to the Pirelli, the Super Sport was masterful in dry conditions, but out of its depth in the wet. It was one of the slowest around the wet handling course and the least refined on the road route, too, but was far and away the most enjoyable to drive on the dry handling track
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lol

I guess if it makes you feel like a track hero it's worth the compromise....
 
[TW]Fox;30044210 said:
Surely they meant any dealer.

Why would a company who has an authorised dealer network send somebody to your house to look at a 150 quid product?!

The shock here is that Vredstein did that, not that Conti won't. It'd have been cheaper to just post you a free tyre!
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They said the dealer. Camskill say they'd need the tyre sent to them, then they'd send it to Germany to be inspected.

Maybe I'll just touch wood every time I drive.

More faff than it's worth especially if it's a load of nothing.
 
[TW]Fox;30044241 said:
lol

I guess if it makes you feel like a track hero it's worth the compromise....
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We get it, 'far and away the most enjoyable drive' isn't important to you. Don't tar everyone with the same brush.
 
stulid said:
http://www.evo.co.uk/features/18309/the-best-tyres-2016-evo-tyre-test
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Clarkey said:
We get it, 'far and away the most enjoyable drive' isn't important to you. Don't tar everyone with the same brush.
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But surely the Conti would give the most enjoyable drive regardless of weather conditions?


It's also fairly telling that Michelin's own PS4 wasn't included, as based on people's opinions so far, it is pretty close to the MPSS in the dry, whilst still being leagues ahead in the wet.
 
Which mirrors my experience with them on the road as well. Hence why I'm finding the CSC6 better on the road. I'd be quite annoyed at myself if I paid the premium for PSS now when there are better and cheaper UHP tyres available for road use.
 
[TW]Fox;30044518 said:
Yet. It's still a tyre thats new on the market. It looks like once its established it could be a market leader, offering all that was good about the Super Sport and improving on what was bad.
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Indeed. It's very frustrating that it's not available in more sizes, as I am getting very close to ordering a full new set and my only viable choices are Conti SportContact 5 or MPSS.
 
Alright I just received a call from Camskill.

The long and short of it is that it sounds like Camskill are saying that the CSC6 isn't an authorised M3 tyre, and that BMW spent millions on r&d making sure the PSS were the only authorised tyre for that car.

They were absolutely certain of this and that they'd seen other tyres with strange lines on the side wall due to the very fact that the M3/M4 requires a tyre with a heavy sidewall like the PSS in order to handle the loads put on them during cornering at speed.

So basically, while the tyre is still under 5 year warranty, Continental could turn around and say "well you use a tyre not authorised by the car manufacturer for that car, and as such, this issue has arisen from being used on this car".

Basically hands being washed by the sounds of it?

Also to send the tyre back would be a cost the customer has to pony up to.

What a load of faff.
 
Hurry up and release the SC6s in 18", Continental! Mind you my SC5s are so awesome (I can't get over how good they are in the wet) I doubt I'll be able to tell if the 6 is any better :D
 
mrk said:
Alright I just received a call from Camskill.

The long and short of it is that it sounds like Camskill are saying that the CSC6 isn't an authorised M3 tyre, and that BMW spent millions on r&d making sure the PSS were the only authorised tyre for that car.
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BMW spent nothing to ensure that PSS was the 'authorised' tyre for a car that was introduced in the late 90's, surely? The BMW Star marking on the PSS is for the current generation cars - they surely didn't develop a tyre for a car they took out of production years ago! Why would they?!

This sounds like classic fob-off.

They were absolutely certain of this and that they'd seen other tyres with strange lines on the side wall due to the very fact that the M3/M4 requires a tyre with a heavy sidewall like the PSS in order to handle the loads put on them during cornering at speed.
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lol. Yes, because only an M3 can corner 'at speed' on public roads. If you'd used it for competitive racing or something then fair enough but it's a road tyre on a road car!

So basically, while the tyre is still under 5 year warranty, Continental could turn around and say "well you use a tyre not authorised by the car manufacturer for that car, and as such, this issue has arisen from being used on this car".
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The last tyre authorised by the manufacturer for your car is what, the original Pilot Sport?! Great, do they even still make them?

Mind you, you are deliberately running the wrong tyre size so I guess all bets are off :p
 
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I'm not one to argue over the phone, so left it at that, but yes those are pretty much the exact same responses I had as well.

At one point the guy even said my insurer can refuse any claim purely because they're not an authorised tyre for the car!

It is classic fobbing off and nothing more
 
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