Upcoming 890FX Motherboards - Due April 26th

I noticed the Asus Crosshair IV Formula on sale Friday, but held off purchasing as I woudn't be suprised if that retailer holds delivery till the 26th/27th.

It's only another week anyway, big deal I can wait another week.

I hope OcUK price for this board is the same or better than the retailer advertising it for sale, will be very disapointed if it isn't as I want to buy it from OcUK, I usually get robbed a good £10 extra buying motherboards from here.
 
Nelly said:
I noticed the Asus Crosshair IV Formula on sale Friday, but held off purchasing as I woudn't be suprised if that retailer holds delivery till the 26th/27th.

It's only another week anyway, big deal I can wait another week.

I hope OcUK price for this board is the same or better than the retailer advertising it for sale, will be very disapointed if it isn't as I want to buy it from OcUK, I usually get robbed a good £10 extra buying motherboards from here.
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=( decided what 1 ur going for?
 
I'm only buying 890FX because it's something new to play with, I bet it won't offer any real world performance increase over 790FX.

USB 3.0, Sata 3 & 4 graphics card lanes that hardly anyone will used because most people use 1 graphics card.

In reviews I would like to see equivelant 790FX clock for clock performance comparisions, also if 890FX can clock a CPU higher.

If it improves overclocking then it will be worthwhile, but I doubt it. Most review websites never show potential customers what they really want to know.
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I'm going to go for the Asus Crosshair IV Formula most likely, better resale value anyway next year lol.

Gigabyte I think are the only boards that come with dual lan - handy for hooking up an X-box or future console for example to your pc, saves buying a wireless router.
 
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ill be only using 1 card for now i might go for the Asus Crosshair IV Extreme depends on prices ne idea how much diffrence both will be?
 
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ill be only using 1 card for now i might go for the Asus Crosshair IV Extreme depends on prices ne idea how much diffrence both will be?
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Not sure at all, I bet the Biostar 890FXE will be around £120 as a wild guess, comes with USB 2.0 as spec but that's no major issue.

I reckon their will be no difference per board in terms of performance gaming wise at least, it's just paying for the make and features.

The Asus Crosshair IV looks abit of a fashion accessory lol, but that also generates sales, I probally wont cast eyes on my mobo untill it's replaced with a better board!
 
tbh im a tad disappointed with this new chipset, and im glad i got impatient and got a 790gx board. i thought they would have at least shrunk it to 40nm, its more of a 795gx (ie its to the 790gx exactly as the 785g is to the 780g).
The only thing that could possibly tempt me is the new sata specs, but i think ill wait for the next chipset generation. Thy even removed ACC :/ (yes the asus has the little extra chip thing, but im pretty sure most wont...)

at least the southbridge has some promise...:
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can i ask why u mention 40nm? i know what 40nm is and means but never thought it mattered when it came to motherboards? does it affect bulldozer or? be really appreciated if someone explained this to me :o
 
well the 890gx seems to be identical to the 790gx, bar a couple of decoding things. One of the major things they were blaggin about the 780g when they first made it was how it was made with brand new 55nm and was ultra power efficient etc.

seeing as they were making 40nm chips for 6 months before 890gx surfaced (yes im aware it doesnt work entirely like that...), and they werent gonna change much architecturally. i would have thought they would have carried on with the efficiency thing and shrunk it. what they have instead done is what i like to call a nvidia.
 
40nm production is massively limited, to put a batch of 890gx/fx's through at 40nm would likely mean less production of 58xx's and higher prices for the chipsets.

You can't make a 58xx on 55nm, it would be too big and run too hot, a 890gx/fx runs at 5-10W, its tiny, it would make no difference to performance either way, theres bagloads of spare 55nm capacity so its far cheaper as TSMC encourage people to use up the capacity they have. It would likely cost twice as much per chip done on 40nm, and as said, lower production of other more important chips.

For a 0.25W difference I'll take a cheaper 55nm version.

They don't have memory controllers in anymore and really have smeg all to do with the performance of the system its just got a couple extra features, and even then its barely more features, sata 3 and usb 3, sata 3 might be useful for some ssd's, there will be smeg all that will use usb3 for ages. A usb3 memory stick, still only writes at 5mb's.

My Asus 890gx isn't a bad board at all, forced to upgrade due to old 790fx board dying and a few weeks ago a older 790fx/gx seemed rather silly to buy right now.

Zero point spending more than £100, the Crosshair is just fancy crap, with £20's worth of silly extras you get charged £60-70 for.

In the old days, when the chipset actually made a difference to performance, there was SOME worth in getting a better board, but not much, these days everything that relates to performance is controlled on the CPU anyway. Bios's are far more simple due to that and far harder to screw up, even overclocking has become embarassingly easy now.

Asus auto overclocking will happily get you near 4 ghz itself on a dual core, 3.5Ghz on a quad, unlocking cores with one option and does a VERY good job of auto voltage tuning. Took all of two reboots and 1 minute to get my brand new 555BE to 4.2Ghz and unlocked to 4 cores, most boards work like that these days.
 
granted, the power difference is minimal. what im trying to say is that there doesnt seem to be much that differentiates it from the older (and now hence cheaper) 790gx. Like i said before, the only difference is the sata6 ports, but they're part of the southbridge, which if one of the manufacturers fancied saving a couple of quid, i reckon that thing would easily bolt on to one of the 7 series chipsets.

i still maintain its more of a 790GX revision (795GX), than a whole new family of chipsets.

if the 890fx does add a few extra hundered mhz to overclocks, then i may start to change my mind...
 
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