Upset neighbours

Haggisman said:
Of course if you do phone the council and tell them "Hi, I'd like to complain about some kids laughing and playing on a trampoline", I'm pretty sure the kids wouldn't be the only ones laughing :p
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Of course, conflating the argument to this kind of silly level to try and make out one side is being unreasonable is a little daft.

As has been said - kids playing is one thing but kids (or anyone) just constantly screeching and screaming is a little OTT.

The argument of "kids going to be kids and should be allowed to enjoy themselves".is all well and good if you accept that constant screaming and screeching means that others are being denied their ability to enjoy themselves and their outdoor space.

Does one groups right override the other's?
 
Richie said:
Of course, conflating the argument to this kind of silly level to try and make out one side is being unreasonable is a little daft.
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Agreed, but there are always some posters who insist on doing so :(

Richie said:
As has been said - kids playing is one thing but kids (or anyone) just constantly screeching and screaming is a little OTT.

The argument of "kids going to be kids and should be allowed to enjoy themselves".is all well and good if you accept that constant screaming and screeching means that others are being denied their ability to enjoy themselves and their outdoor space.

Does one groups right override the other's?
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Of course not, which is why if you have kids, you should teach them to be considerate of other people, but also if you choose to live in a residential area, you should accept the fact that there will sometimes be the noise of kids playing, and heaven forbid, if it's a hot day they might even have a pool to splash in! *cue dramatic music*.

I'm not saying screaming and screeching is acceptable at all hours of they day (or at all really), but there a few posters in this thread who have trotted out the "children should be seen and not heard" line, and seem to expect utmost silence from them.

If I'm sat in the garden, I'd certainly rather have the sound of kids playing than some wannabe gangsta's rude boi "music" or the noise of a mid-life-crisis stricken 50 year old's new broom broom.
 
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alchal said:
There is a lot of research into this, I don't think you can find anything that shows it did, it also was and is a real good get out for child abusers, another good reason why it's a no no.


More issues than a simple ' smack ' that is screwing up society today.
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A sharp slap on the legs is nothing like child abuse! It's a correctional disciplinary measure that should be up to a parent (not the state) within a range of disciplines but the smack is the back stop to ensuring the child knows where not to push the boundaries beyond. It's also known as tough love and the parents responsibility to ensure their kids behave rather than abdicating responsibility to I best not do that because of what the state might say. They're your kids and neglect to bring them up with the right discipline is the sort of thing that leads to kids becoming criminals and drug addicts etc later in life.
 
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theone8181 said:
Well this thread seems to have exploded like my neighbours temper :D . It wasn't a lot of screaming (think child heating annoyed rather than a tantrum). Its quite hard to explain on a forum though. I've told the kids to not be so rowdy and to try and go on the street more (we live on a culdesac) and maybe give other neighbours gardens a go. There are 3 other family's with similar aged kids, but they always tend to go in my garden so hopefully this will pacify the neighbours a bit.
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If they're old enough and at least a few of them then they should probably be playing in a playing field not too far away. That is what they're for, rather than the road which is for traffic and peoples vehicles being parked, not ball games!
 
Haggisman said:
Let me guess, or else you'll hit me until I do what you want, like your chav parents taught you? :cry:

I think a large part of the problem is that people have become very insular and isolationist these days. Don't know if it's a British thing due to being an island, but just look at Brexit for a perfect example on a national scale. People want to have the benefits of living in a community, but not actually be a part of that community. Nobody gets to know their neighbours anymore, so they are just a faceless noise.

Maybe if you got to know them, you'd realise they are people just like you, and sure, maybe they are just chavs with no consideration for others, but maybe not.

Maybe that kid is outside "unsupervised" making a bit of noise because it's the only chance their single mum gets to do a bit of housework in between shifts?

Maybe the lady next door is blasting out her music because she's been diagnosed with stage 3 cancer and she doesn't want you to hear her puking her guts up from chemo?

You keep mentioning the word "consideration", but it seems you fail to realise that it applies to you just as much as anyone else.
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I'm not here as a social worker for a neighbour, they should be looking up the details of such services if they need them. No way am I going around to deal with them in person because most people are completely unreasonable in that respect these days and if they choose to respond with a torrid of abuse it's achieved nothing other than them knowing where an official complaint is likely to have come from.
 
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