USA wants your social media history.

stopper said:
The birth of fascism right there.

I don't even have a social media account of any kind, I'm not daft enough to put my personal life on the internet.
Guess that means I'm not allowed a holiday in the states, no big loss there ;)
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ROFL how to jump you related rubbish.
How issocial media putting your life online and a forum not. FB and other don't hold a gun to you head and force you to put every single aspect of your life online. How is me using Twitter to follow F1 for example putting my life on line?
I think your reply clueless on social media and how you can use it.

Also where onearth does it say that you can't go to America.

Just ROFL the usual clueless people who really don't understand social media.

Aston this no thanks would rather go explore other parts of the world that sign up to that rubbish.
 
Adam said:
I have nothing to hide which I imagine is true for 99% of the population.
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Your attitude there sets a dangerous precedent. The attitude should be that people should be able to do what they like in their spare time with privacy. What they do inside their house / bedroom / online should have nothing to do with the establishment or their employer. Sure, bomb making is different, but it's where you cross the line. Snooping on everyone's Facebook, smart TV cameras / web cams ("Telescreens") and on everyone's phones because a couple of people have made bombs smacks of 1984. Even then, you can't be too sure who set off the bombs. False flag etc.
 
A New York Times report claims to have the State Department's list of tracked sites, which are not listed in its proposal. American sites include Facebook, Flickr, Google+, Instagram, LinkedIn, Myspace, Pinterest, Reddit, Tumblr, Twitter, Vine and YouTube. Foreign entries include China's Douban, QQ, Sina Weibo, Tencent Weibo, and Youku; Russia's social network VK; Belgium's Twoo; and Latvia's Ask.fm.
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I should be OK, I'm not any of them. Pretty lucky really, because if they'd have asked for ShootingSpree.com details I'd be royally ******.
 
Efour said:
Go on Mr tin foil for the sake of discussion why not. I'd give them everything in a heartbeat, my personal data means nothing but to me.
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Nothing to do with being a conspiracy theorist if that's what you're getting at. I am simply a man of principle. I have absolutely nothing to hide, but even the threat of prison time wouldn't be enough to get me to switch my position on the matter.

Your mindset is a dangerous one to have. If everyone started thinking like that, we'd have no privacy whatsoever.
 
Pawnless Endgame said:
Your attitude there sets a dangerous precedent. The attitude should be that people should be able to do what they like in their spare time with privacy. What they do inside their house / bedroom / online should have nothing to do with the establishment or their employer. Sure, bomb making is different, but it's where you cross the line. Snooping on everyone's Facebook, smart TV cameras / web cams ("Telescreens") and on everyone's phones because a couple of people have made bombs smacks of 1984. Even then, you can't be too sure who set off the bombs. False flag etc.
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Or maybe the attitude should be if you want to go to another country where you have to ask for permission to enter, you should follow their rules? If you don't want to follow their rules for whatever reason then don't go, simple.
 
They dont need it from western countries because they already know everything about you thanks to all the web cams, gaming cams, Alexa, siri and all the other internet connected crap we have. Infact the NSA probably read this comment before you did.
 
G-MAN2004 said:
If everyone started thinking like that, we'd have no privacy whatsoever.
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Problem is most people do think like that. And privacy is being slowly eroded day by day, minute by minute. Which is why soon there will be no privacy whatsoever. The entire concept of privacy will be eradicated from the face of the earth. All human interaction will have to take place on social media and will be carefully controlled there will be no freedom. If we don't put an end to this "I've got nothing to hide" BS right now I can guarantee you that in 10-50 years it will be illegal for two people to have a face to face conversation in private.
 
Brizzles said:
Isn't this forum a form of social media ?
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No.

I think you can clearly distinguish between social media and a classic forum. Forums have been around since 90s, people pick a pseudonym and have discussions of particular topics or pressing issues.

Social media is different. It necessitates a deep rooted connection to your actual life, real names, real places, real psychosocial data, real big data mining, etc. Social media thrives on people's personal data, not just their ideas or discussions as in a discussion forum.
 
mrbell1984 said:
I’ve always said if you have nothing to hide then there’s no problem with handing accounts over.

People say it like it’s a privacy thing, which it is but “Got nothing to hide - no problem” scenario.
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Bank balances, transactions, wire taps, text logs, emails, browsing history, online purchases, sexual preferences, previous partners, cameras in the home... cavity searches.

Where do you draw the line?
 
BowdonUK said:
How would a person go about compiling his/her social media information over that many years?
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I'd have problems with it - I can't even remember half of what I've done online over that period never mind the myriad of accounts and usernames and so on. Never mind anyone actually vetting it - I think their head would explode trying to comprehend it all never mind the time it would take.
 
asim18 said:
No.

I think you can clearly distinguish between social media and a classic forum. Forums have been around since 90s, people pick a pseudonym and have discussions of particular topics or pressing issues.

Social media is different. It necessitates a deep rooted connection to your actual life, real names, real places, real psychosocial data, real big data mining, etc. Social media thrives on people's personal data, not just their ideas or discussions as in a discussion forum.
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Exactly.

Also what happens if you don't have social media to share? Or what if you do and just decide to delete everything before you go on holiday? Or maybe you could just make another account under a false name and transfer everything?

Hmm
 
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