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I was just asking for options so draw your own conclusions.
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No but the amount of RTM's and people complaining about it can't be ignored.
You seem to view this engine-less Cossie you've bought as some kind of worthwhile investment (which may not be far from the truth). Bear in mind, then, that if you start chopping it about, which you will almost certainly have to do to some extent, for some V8 conversion, you will essentially destroy that investment. IMHO it would be a shame to do this to something getting rare/classic, so IMHO keep this Cossie only if you intend to break it or restore it to original spec.
If you just want to create a V8 saloon for the hell of it, then that Cossie shell is not the best place to start IMHO. A Cossie without its engine/box is, afterall, pretty much identical to a bog standard 1.3 base model albeit with slightly thicker driveshafts and a body kit. Therefore if you want to create a custom V8 Sierra for some reason, you'd be better off starting with a much cheaper standard car. You've paid a massive premium for the Cossie's identity (log book) which is worthless if you're going to turn it into a custom.
If you're actually serious about a V8 saloon conversion, flog on the Cossie and start with something worth a lot less. Perhaps not even a Sierra. Try another forum for better sleeves-rolled-up technical advice - plenty of that sort of thing at www.locostbuilders.co.uk (and we know our Sierra's there too
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Or just get something with a V8 already in it!
If you just want to create a V8 saloon for the hell of it, then that Cossie shell is not the best place to start IMHO. A Cossie without its engine/box is, afterall, pretty much identical to a bog standard 1.3 base model albeit with slightly thicker driveshafts and a body kit. Therefore if you want to create a custom V8 Sierra for some reason, you'd be better off starting with a much cheaper standard car. You've paid a massive premium for the Cossie's identity (log book) which is worthless if you're going to turn it into a custom.
If you're actually serious about a V8 saloon conversion, flog on the Cossie and start with something worth a lot less. Perhaps not even a Sierra. Try another forum for better sleeves-rolled-up technical advice - plenty of that sort of thing at www.locostbuilders.co.uk (and we know our Sierra's there too
).Or just get something with a V8 already in it!
Motors is the sort of forum where people put a lot of thought and research into their answers, so when they realise it's all fantasy it gets a bit tedious. I didn't report the post by the way, but I do see why this sort of thing aggravates people.
If you're actually serious about a V8 saloon conversion, flog on the Cossie and start with something worth a lot less. Perhaps not even a Sierra. Try another forum for better sleeves-rolled-up technical advice - plenty of that sort of thing at www.locostbuilders.co.uk (and we know our Sierra's there too
Or just get something with a V8 already in it!
Sensible advice.
If you want to bung a V8 in something, bung in it an old Granada or Sierra or something, don't ruin a cossie
Break the cossie for spares, make money from it, then use the money to fund your project.
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Fair enough. Delete the thread please mods as pointless questions. The word considered needs to be considered more lol.
I dont see a reason to delete the thread, nor even for the warning to be honest. You used the word 'considering' three times in the OP. That's CONSIDERING, folks. A discussion. Opinions and suggestions requested. Fair game for a discussion forum IMHO. If some people are sad enough to be agitated to the point of an RTM just because what's being considered may not see the light of day, or isn't even likely to see the light of day, and they feel that their considered and knowlegable inputs are therefore pointless and a waste of their time, they need not participate at all.
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lol seriously?!
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This, pretty much. This particular topic isn't really something I know a huge amount about but on subjects I do know about I will quite happily spend 30 minutes or more composing a really detailed post if I feel it will help the OP.
To then find out they were just posting random stuff for the lulz or it was all some sort of fantasy thing is hugely irritating.
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Agreed
Hmmm so bouncing ideas off of forum members is not allowed in case people who take it too seriously get upset? Surely such discussion should be allowed, then if people think it may be pure fantasy they can simply choose not to waste their precious time on it, no?
It's not as if this ranks up there with 'Alright, how do I turbo my saxo and make it RWD - i changed the oil once, innit' levels of absolutely-never-gonna-happen-fantasy, is it? I mean the guy has actually bought the car and seems to be genuinely considering his options as to what direction to take the project. If you consider your time too precious and your opinions too valuable you can just ignore. Others may be prepared to offer their opinion though.
Oh well whatever, never mind, I'll stop going on about it. Just a shame to see open discussion stifled for no real reason. <Shrugs>
It's not as if this ranks up there with 'Alright, how do I turbo my saxo and make it RWD - i changed the oil once, innit' levels of absolutely-never-gonna-happen-fantasy, is it? I mean the guy has actually bought the car and seems to be genuinely considering his options as to what direction to take the project. If you consider your time too precious and your opinions too valuable you can just ignore. Others may be prepared to offer their opinion though.
Oh well whatever, never mind, I'll stop going on about it. Just a shame to see open discussion stifled for no real reason. <Shrugs>
If he's serious he needs to get over to Passionford and have a read there, look at speaking to beefy from Fast Ford magazine...he's putting a twin turbo V8 into a Saph, and its a rather extreme build!
Not an easy conversion though, custom engine mounts, problems with clearance at the radiator/slam panel, transmission tunnel mods to ensure your new gearbox can go in (the borg warner T5 the saph will have may well crap itself at the torque from a tuned V8 if you use it the way such a car would invite you to, yes you can rebuild it with stronger internals and mods from the likes of CTS but that starts getting pretty expensive compared to sourcing a proper yank gearbox...which needs a custom propshaft to match up to the rear diff...etc)
Not an easy conversion though, custom engine mounts, problems with clearance at the radiator/slam panel, transmission tunnel mods to ensure your new gearbox can go in (the borg warner T5 the saph will have may well crap itself at the torque from a tuned V8 if you use it the way such a car would invite you to, yes you can rebuild it with stronger internals and mods from the likes of CTS but that starts getting pretty expensive compared to sourcing a proper yank gearbox...which needs a custom propshaft to match up to the rear diff...etc)
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It's because we all know that it'd cost more (to have anything with meaningful performance or reliability) than just rebuilding it with a Cosworth engine, which in turn would most likely cost more than just buying one with an engine in it already.
Whilst I don't neccesarily agree that pointless debate should be stifled with suspension or whatever - this guy has bounced 16 completely different ideas off us in the last year none of which have gone anywhere, involving budgets of up to and including 5 figure sums - only to then buy a £1500 Ford Sierra with no engine, and then tell us he cannot afford to insure it.
I mean, seriously?
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As I said above though I hardly think this guy's discussions ranks up there as blatant trolling. So he's fickle, so he might like to dream a bit, so what? I guess you feel he's on the other side of the troll line?
Nevertheless, I'm not personally interested in the vast majority of threads in this forum - due to their diversity who could be interested in them all? Doesn't mean I think those discussions I personally consider pointless shouldn't be allowed - I'd just not spend my time on them if I would consider it wasted by doing so. Surely people who think that about this guy's threads can do likewise and let it be?
the cossie i bought coz the bodywork seemed sound (apart from small finger size hole in sill and finger size hole in boot - which has been verified by a mate who used to build XJ220s etc
finger sized hole in the sill is just the begining... the sill is on its way to complete rot in a year or so. that shell needs some work :/
didnt i reply to a thread of yours where your mate with good welding skills kept blowing holes through a sierra wheel arch??? different car to this one ?? mmz shouldnt have wasted my time
It's like walking into a car dealer, asking about a car, going for a test drive with the dealer, then going back to the dealership with him to talk figures and agree on a best price only then to turn round at the end say "actually, no thanks, I never had any intention of buying the car, I just wanted to find out how much one costs"
You don't do it because it's cruel and wastes people's time. Exactly what these pointless day dreaming threads do. It's not fair to waste peoples time like that
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