Valve: Source 2 released.
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I think everyone sees that very much as a soft launch of the content authoring side. No one's really sure about the implementation.
That said, we don't actually have any hard evidence of a full bore Source 2 either. But I'm assuming for this to be a proper upgrade they've made some serious engine changes. I'd just like to see them in a new tech demo.
Honestly, if Valve were all about making money then HL3 would definitely already exist. Yes they make loads of money (and I'm sure they're not exactly sad about that), but without shareholders they can do what they want without having the pressure to release things quickly, just look how long they've been messing around getting that controller right. They don't release many games, and its probably just a case that they had other stuff they wanted to do, or maybe HL3 wasn't working out as they hoped. I really thought people would be over the HL3 whining by now.
Apparently the games must be released on Steam (along with anywhere else) - http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/03/04/source-2-is-actually-free-like-for-free/
I guess that helps explain the free part, quite a cunning plan.
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Half life 3 now please...then again, it has a lot to live up to!
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left 4 dead is a high quality game with enough "content"... call me simple but it's a great game. maybe we should get footballers get chased by tigers cos there is not enough content in the game....actually, wait a sec, yes there is enough content...no need for the tigers. on another note i'll play other games till all dem sequals come oot cos i got choice. looking foward to them.
Left 4 Dead is anything but full of content. Replayable, yes. Fun with friends, yes. Unique (at the time), yes. Full of content? there were like 5 maps, and L4D2 brought nothing new except some slightly different zombies to play as.
They'll basically be getting 30% on a good 70-90% of sales then depending on who you distribute through and how aggressively you promote that route. Still, your game is more than likely to end up on Steam anyway so I guess 30% is better than ~35%.
Then again you should be picking an engine because it offers everything you need to make the best game you can. Only small-mid size development studios should be worrying too much about the cost of the engine. Too small and you're unlikely to care too much about the royalties and AAA developers will pick based on what they need and come to licencing agreements.
As for L4D, I've gotten 200 hours worth out of those games. Brilliance from it's simplicity
.No it isn't, and no it wasn't.
It brought new maps, which later got added to. Both games were/are full of content it just depends how you play them.
Versus mode for example adds a lot to the game.
Better to have a small number of good, well balanced maps than a large number of hastily slapped together maps if you want a serious competitive game.
It shows how little of it you've played. It has 6 campaigns, each made up of 4 maps each. That's a lot more than 5 maps.
In addition to that, it also has a seventh campaign available for survival mode only.
It has multiple modes, which is content as it expands the gameplay possibilities, and expanded gameplay modes IS content.
That's only taking in to account the second game by itself. It also has all of the campaigns from the first game added in too.
On top of that, there are decent amount of very good third party campaigns available.
Im not disputing that, im drawing a line between what Content is versus what Gameplay is. What i take from the game has little to do with the amount of content that is available, its more to do with how the game was designed to be fun in multiplayer.
The point is L4D/2 has far, far less content than a game such as Skyrim, Call of Duty, Battefield, Half Life and so on.
The fact that it is exceedingly fun to play is down to the nature of multiplayer. That scaring the crap out of your mates is always going to be fun. If anyone honestly debates that L4D/2 is FULL of content, then they're simply insane.
You're moving the goalposts now. Left for Dead/2 IS full of content, to say it isn't says it's devoid of content.
To compare it to a game like Skyrim or Half Life is disingenuous because those games only have the single player experience going for them. A single player game has to have a lot more content.
Battle Field and COD doesn't really count either, as they have their own single player campaigns, plus I highly doubt COD has much in the way of content anyway that you don't have to bend over to obtain.