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For me I see this as a positive path to take from an ecosystem perspective. Whilst the performance might be frowned upon it opens the opportunity for Valve to progress Proton and the hardware further.
 
Price might be great but the specs are meh.

A 200W mini PC with a cut down RX7600 8GB and RDNA3 based without FSR4 support is a tough sell in 2026. This needed to be a cut down 9060 variant, that would had a huge performance uplift at the same power.
 
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Price might be great but the specs are meh.

A 200W mini PC with a cut down RX7600 8GB and RDNA3 based without FSR4 support is a tough sell in 2026. This needed to be a cut down 9060 variant, that would had a huge performance uplift at the same power.
Are there any APUs with RDNA4 yet? I think the Strix Halo is only 3.5.

Will probably be enough for most given how well the SD has done. It’s basically on par with consoles and if you play lighter games it’ll be fine.

I could see SD2 using RDNA4 for a proper leap in performance, but it’ll take a year or 2 for the manufacturing costs to come down enough to make it feasible.
 
Steam Deck 2 must be years away then. I have no use for the Steam Machine but good luck to them I guess. Surely their own device will do better than the last time they tried by partnering up with other companies.
They reiterated again today that they will not release a new steam deck until the performance jump is significant without costing stupid money. They specifically said even 50% faster than steam deck is not good enough
 
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Are there any APUs with RDNA4 yet? I think the Strix Halo is only 3.5.

Will probably be enough for most given how well the SD has done. It’s basically on par with consoles and if you play lighter games it’ll be fine.

I could see SD2 using RDNA4 for a proper leap in performance, but it’ll take a year or 2 for the manufacturing costs to come down enough to make it feasible.
This isnt an APU is it? It sounds like a CPU and dGPU as its got separate VRAM.
 
I've got many games like Starfield and NMS (situational) that I'd prefer a bigger screen over my Deck.. this sounds ideal!
I don't want to stand by the PC for a few hours of casual gaming, I want to be in from of my OLED with the Mrs browsing the socials and yapping away away whilst I put an hour or two into my steam library.
I LOVE my Deck.. this sounds like the perfect companion...however... Price. £300 or thereabouts or it's an easy pass.
 
Depending on price this could be a better (and cheaper) option for someone who was going to build a budget PC.

Price. £300 or thereabouts or it's an easy pass.

There’s no way this will cost £300. That’s less than a steam deck.

According to Gamersnexus Valve explicitly said it won’t be priced like a console, but instead like an entry level PC.

That to me says it’ll be minimum £600 for the 512gb.
 
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Is the spec page wrong ? It says it has HDMI 2.0 that supports 4K/120fps ; I thought HDMI 2.0 only did up to 4K/60 fps.
 
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Is the spec page wrong ? It says it has HDMI 2.0 that supports 4K/120fps ; I thought HDMI 2.0 only did up to 4K/60 fps.

Edit: sorry I should have checked the specs. Yeah it’s odd that they’re saying it supports 4k 120 hdr etc. It won’t have the bandwidth to support all of that with hdmi 2.0

I’m surprised no ones really spoken about a lack of hdmi 2.1. The focus has been on the fairly low specs of the gpu.
 
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It’s likely through displayport.

I’m surprised no ones really spoken about a lack of hdmi 2.1. The focus has been on the fairly low specs of the gpu.
This is what it says for HDMI 2.0 in the spec sheet:
  • Up to 4K @ 120Hz
  • Supports HDR, FreeSync, and CEC

Still think this must be wrong. The OLED display in my living room doesn't support Displayport; HDMI 2.0 is a deal-breaker for me.
 
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I think this is going to be pretty expensive for the hardware it offers, through the convenience and user experience will probably be very good. But those hardware specs already look pretty ‘meh’. Lack of FSR4 is a real killer as well, as it could certainly do with the help.
 
This is what it says for HDMI 2.0 in the spec sheet:
  • Up to 4K @ 120Hz
  • Supports HDR, FreeSync, and CEC

Still think this must be wrong. The OLED display in my living room doesn't support Displayport; HDMI 2.0 is a deal-breaker for me.

After posting I actually went to the steam page to look at the specs (should have done that before posting) and I’m shocked no one has spoken about it yet on the major YouTube channels.

They’re pitching it more as a living room device which means people will more likely be using tv’s where it might be an issue.

Time will tell though….
 
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Edit: sorry I should have checked the specs. Yeah it’s odd that they’re saying it supports 4k 120 hdr etc. It won’t have the bandwidth to support all of that with hdmi 2.0

I’m surprised no ones really spoken about a lack of hdmi 2.1. The focus has been on the fairly low specs of the gpu.

Still think this must be wrong. The OLED display in my living room doesn't support Displayport; HDMI 2.0 is a deal-breaker for me.

Quote from the DF interview/media Q&A with Valve is that apparently the hardware supports HDMI 2.1, but that it lacks DSC for 4K 165hz and hence why they have it listed at 'only' a 4K 120hz. Also support for VRR too (Video link with relevent part at 25:25 onwards).

So I think on that basis it's not an issue - assuming that's all correct and it is at least a 4K 120hz output over HDMI.
 
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Quote from the DF interview/media Q&A with Valve is that apparently the hardware supports HDMI 2.1, but that it lacks DSC for 4K 165hz and hence why they have it listed at 'only' a 4K 120hz. Also support for VRR too (Video link with relevent part at 25:25 onwards).

So I think on that basis it's not an issue - assuming that's all correct and it is at least a 4K 120hz output over HDMI.
Linux is not able to fully support 2.1 because apparently the certification body won't open source the drivers.
 
This isnt an APU is it? It sounds like a CPU and dGPU as its got separate VRAM.
You’re right, I meant SoC but was mainly comparing what’s already out there with similar performance and what that costs.

The Strix Halo, which is AMDs latest APU, doesn’t even have RDNA4 and it’s quite expensive. A Zen5/RDNA4 APU or SoC would be a pretty solid mini gaming PC but it’ll need a year to get prices down.
 
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