*** Valve Steam Machine ***

If they were to release the already manufactured ones....how do they limit scalping as much as possible? These are going to get scalped to the hilts. Only 5 year + old Steam account with at least 3 games purchased in the past 12 months allowed to purchase just 1?
 
If they were to release the already manufactured ones....how do they limit scalping as much as possible? These are going to get scalped to the hilts. Only 5 year + old Steam account with at least 3 games purchased in the past 12 months allowed to purchase just 1?

I suspect supply is going to be extremely limited for the Steam Machine plus it will likely be expensive. The idea of fighting hordes of people to no doubt end up waiting weeks if not months with a pre order, for what is ultimately a low end machine at a high price has extinguished my initial excitement for the Steam Machine.

I decided to build a gaming PC instead and I tried to stick as close as possible to what I expect the Steam Machine to cost (I expect £650).

I priced up the following components and ended up ordering them:

Ryzen 5600
B550 motherboard
16 GB DDR 4 Ram
850w modular power supply
Thermaltake CPU air cooler
Nvidia 5060ti 16GB
A 3D printed MATX case

The total came to £750.

I already have a 1TB NVMe drive.

You could save £150 by swapping the 5060ti for an Intel B580 or an AMD 9060XT 8GB. You could save a further £30 by getting a non modular 600W power supply. So add on £50 for the cost of storage you could build a more powerful computer than the Steam Machine for around the £650 mark.

Although it's not the same form factor as the Steam Machine it is way more powerful and has the benefit of being upgradeable.
 
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Nothing directly Steam Machine related, but saw this on Resetera, via Wccftech from a Gartner report; “Entry-Level PC Segment Will Disappear by 2028,” Says Gartner, as Soaring Memory Costs Start to Cripple Manufacturers

I know there are these doom-and-gloom reports daily on RAM, Nand chips etc. But this probably really illustrates how Valve chose the inadvertently chose the wrong time to launch a new PC-based. And whilst the Steam Machine was probably never a $500 machine as laid out in the article, it might be part of the new base-line for consumer PC's, i.e. $1,000 and beyond.
 
I suspect supply is going to be extremely limited for the Steam Machine plus it will likely be expensive. The idea of fighting hordes of people to no doubt end up waiting weeks if not months with a pre order, for what is ultimately a low end machine at a high price has extinguished my initial excitement for the Steam Machine.

I decided to build a gaming PC instead and I tried to stick as close as possible to what I expect the Steam Machine to cost (I expect £650).

I priced up the following components and ended up ordering them:

Ryzen 5600
B550 motherboard
16 GB DDR 4 Ram
850w modular power supply
Thermaltake CPU air cooler
Nvidia 5060ti 16GB
A 3D printed MATX case

The total came to £750.

I already have a 1TB NVMe drive.

You could save £150 by swapping the 5060ti for an Intel B580 or an AMD 9060XT 8GB. You could save a further £30 by getting a non modular 600W power supply. So add on £50 for the cost of storage you could build a more powerful computer than the Steam Machine for around the £650 mark.

Although it's not the same form factor as the Steam Machine it is way more powerful and has the benefit of being upgradeable.
When the steam machines where first announced I said to my friend group a £650 pc would likely blow it out the water, and you can add to it going forward
 
When the steam machines where first announced I said to my friend group a £650 pc would likely blow it out the water, and you can add to it going forward

There's a lot more choice at a range of budgets when you aren't so constrained by the form factor. It was obvious the Steam Machine wasn't the right system for them anyway.
 
Valve certainly don't have the buying scale to combat these price rises on memory so I'd say this thing is unfortunately dead in the water! I really hope they push forward with the OS release in a supported state that allows an easier option for a build your own approach.
 
Valve certainly don't have the buying scale to combat these price rises on memory so I'd say this thing is unfortunately dead in the water! I really hope they push forward with the OS release in a supported state that allows an easier option for a build your own approach.

But what do they do with all the ones that are built ready to go ? I hope they still sell them as tbh it’s perfect for what I want.
 
Nothing directly Steam Machine related, but saw this on Resetera, via Wccftech from a Gartner report; “Entry-Level PC Segment Will Disappear by 2028,” Says Gartner, as Soaring Memory Costs Start to Cripple Manufacturers

I know there are these doom-and-gloom reports daily on RAM, Nand chips etc. But this probably really illustrates how Valve chose the inadvertently chose the wrong time to launch a new PC-based. And whilst the Steam Machine was probably never a $500 machine as laid out in the article, it might be part of the new base-line for consumer PC's, i.e. $1,000 and beyond.

**** happens in tech

Had an electronics teacher who worked for a company that invested into making a bells and whistles radio. Using vacuum tubes. Transistors completely ate their lunch and company folded.

And here we are with AI eating many lunches with a greater and lesser impact.

Looks like we're heading back to 1990's pc pricing.

Valve won't lose anything they'll miss but it will mess with how they wanted to promote SteamOS if they can't get out the demo machine.
 
Apple just released a new lineup with essentially no increased prices for RAM and storage.

They also just released a new $600 ($500 on education discount) MacBook which looks like a fantastic value for ‘normies’, the quality of the chassis is excellent for such an inexpensive machine.

Apple and good value were not things I thought I’d say in the same sentence. I say that as someone who uses Mac laptops.
 
Had an electronics teacher who worked for a company that invested into making a bells and whistles radio. Using vacuum tubes. Transistors completely ate their lunch and company folded.

Wasn't Mullard was it?

Was watching a fantastic documentary from the very early 1960's about making Valves (no pun!) at their Blackburn factory. Even showing the site being expanded as they were doing so much business.

I think the Videogame industry has these sorts of stories; Nintendo trying to release their new console in New York in 1985 in the aftermath of the video game crash, or Sony and Microsoft fighting against the pandemic five years ago with their new ninth-gen consoles. That said there does seem to be a seismic shift in technology at the moment that may end-up permanently changing to landscape and even taking a few technology companies with it.
 
Apple just released a new lineup with essentially no increased prices for RAM and storage.

They also just released a new $600 ($500 on education discount) MacBook which looks like a fantastic value for ‘normies’, the quality of the chassis is excellent for such an inexpensive machine.

Apple and good value were not things I thought I’d say in the same sentence. I say that as someone who uses Mac laptops.
You don't need to increase prices when you've been gouging consumers on RAM and SSD upgrades for years. Their margins on SSDs and RAM are probably still healthy in spite of increasing supplier prices because they already charge so much.

But lets not rule it out. Apple will do Apple things.
 
You don't need to increase prices when you've been gouging consumers on RAM and SSD upgrades for years. Their margins on SSDs and RAM are probably still healthy in spite of increasing supplier prices because they already charge so much.

But lets not rule it out. Apple will do Apple things.
You do if you want to maintain margins to keep your shareholders happy, it’s the joy of being a public company.
 
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