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That's different, not really the point. Humans cannot digest raw meat. Whereas humans can digest hot or cold tea and hot or cold milk.
Presumably so, a long long time ago though.
Vegetarians are hypocritical.
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That's different, not really the point. Humans cannot digest raw meat. Whereas humans can digest hot or cold tea and hot or cold milk.
Presumably so, a long long time ago though.
Humans aren't unable to eat raw meat. I've eaten raw meat, and fish, I'm sure others have.
It is cooked because it aids digestion, and tastes better. I'm sure other animals would do this if they had the ability.
Here's an interesting article:
Humans are naturally plant-eaters according to the best evidence: our bodies
Humans are naturally plant-eaters according to the best evidence: our bodies
A truly unbiased source there.
I've not read the link but going by the title isn't a big indication our appendix? Now a redundant part of our bodies that many years ago was once used in the process of digestion towards greenery?
(just trying to remember from something i've read ages ago though, not sure if that's accurate)
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you talk about excessive or un-needed cruelty. I cant see how cruelty is ever needed.
and you talk about bacteria as if they are conscious. They attack our bodies so im gonna take a tablet and kill them just like i would shoot a bear who was gonna attack me.
Im a vegan if your wondering..
Ok, from a scriptural point of view then, it wasn't until after the great flood when God told Noah that humans could eat meat.
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Its pretty certain you know jack **** about the dairy industry. Oh and that last one is sig worthy.
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I don't think it's redundant. I don't have a source, but I remember a while ago reading that it actually contains bacteria that are used in digestion.
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I believe it was in new scientist. I read thesame article. They seem to think it is used for storing a lot of bacteria to repopulate the gut when required. Its not an obvious function.
You could use the dairy and lactose intolerant argument. Humans are not meant to drink milk from cows etc. Really are not, it was however an advantage that we did, and which is why the western world got through those damn cold winters such a long long time ago near the last ice age.
All the arguments are for MODERN humans. If you go back to the time we were HUNTER GATHERERS, you will find that a lot of the arguments are in favour of meat eating. We have evolved and developed along the way.
Why are vegetarians more prone to anemia? The richest source of iron is meat. Yes, you can go out of your way to eat foods rich in iron, but without knowing which is which (and unless you were a modern human) you wouldn't stand a chance.
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It's amusing how many people take it almost as a personal affront when I say I'm a vegetarian - usually only after being questioned why I've picked the vegetarian option on the menu. It's as if I've questioned all their life choices and demanded they explain why they eat meat when, with all due respect to them, I really don't give a stuff what they choose to eat. It's not a subject that I tend to bring up ever unless I'm going somewhere that might require me to choose food e.g. going to someones house for a meal or to a restaurant - other than that there's no real need for people to know as it doesn't define me, it's just my diet.
I've chosen not to eat meat out of personal preference, I'm happy to respect that they've chosen otherwise due to their own personal preferences and would be perfectly content to leave it at that. If people are going to make an issue about it then I'll fight my corner but it's a pretty dull subject for me having done it so many times.
As for the original statement posited - it starts from such a flawed premise I'm not even sure where to begin.
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Veggies and Vegans don't bother me as long as they're not evangelistic about it or claim that humans aren't designed or supposed to eat meat. IF those 2 criteria are not met, then I have all the time in the world for them - and to be fair it doesn't bother me in slightest as long as they don't expect me to be one.
As soon as they start preaching, it makes me want to slap them across the face with a raw lump of beef before eating it infront of them.
As soon as they start preaching, it makes me want to slap them across the face with a raw lump of beef before eating it infront of them.
explain how anything i said was wrong (apart from 24/7 milking)
Read a definition on rape. Most farms will have a bull (dairy or beef or they will hire one), I'm pretty sure ours does not carry a knife, wandering around the field looking for a victim to hold down and sexually assault. Of course there is Artificial insemination as well.
Twice a day milking occurs on the majority of working farms. And painfully? The machines used are designed to imitate calves suckling so as to extract the milk.
This. That's exactly my point. Yes, the Vegetarians who just get one with it, I have no problems with and wouldn't try and change their mind or get them to justify their choice. It's the ones who start and preach that rattle me when they are not coming from the safest starting point.
Vegans have a reasonable arguement and are entitled to their opinion. Vegetarians should not preach IMO.
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I always imagined it'd be extremely difficult to be vegan and healthy, it's not a lifestyle choice I'd ever adopt. Unless you have a very good understanding of nutrition then you are likely to be quite sickly eating a vegan diet, I know a few who are literally always ill with something!
With respect to the OP, I don't think there's much point being vegetarian on ethical grounds and as such I won't attempt that diet either. I don't care if someone else is, so long as they're not preachy about it, in my experience I've not encountered anyone who has been though.
With respect to the OP, I don't think there's much point being vegetarian on ethical grounds and as such I won't attempt that diet either. I don't care if someone else is, so long as they're not preachy about it, in my experience I've not encountered anyone who has been though.