Violence in Selfridges and "drill music"

dowie said:
Yeah, I think that is a reasonable point, obvs no one is saying the style of music itself causes violence, the lyrics themselves though perhaps stir up gang rivalries, some of them reference previous killings etc..

My focus was more on the culture surrounding this, it's no surprise that the kid with the knife here has a deadbeat, criminal father (albeit a very famous one in this particular instance), nor is it surprising given the estate they're from - that's been a problem estate for several generations, example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadwater_Farm#Murder_of_PC_Keith_Blakelock


I mean a group of people on that estate literally murdered a police officer and got away with it, hardly surprising that a generation or two later and a bunch of residents are still violent or even murderous scumbags.

The estate itself seems to have been successfully regenerated lots of investment poured in, CCTV, concierges etc... but the effect of that seems to have been to reduce some obvious reportable crime in the estate itself, not necessarily impact the criminals who live there and the crimes they commit elsewhere.



Quite possibly, that's an obvious problem when people can't argue and so attack either their own projections (or in this case some faulty memory relating to some completely different poster).

@hurfdurf you've gone rather quiet - found anything to back up the drivel you claimed here yet?



Go ahead, show me where you believe I've ever done that or made that claim?



LOL I suspect that is what has happened here too.

@deuse you have a short username beginning with a "d" - IIRC you are a bit old, putting aside the rather uncharitable description given by @hurfdurf have you by any chance mentioned being elderly and disabled on these forums? If so I suspect I've been mistaken for you.
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Let @hurfdurf come and prove it and not second hand hear say by another you know what member ;)

My name is after the game Deuse-Ex it was something else before the crash.
 
dowie said:
My focus was more on the culture surrounding this
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Unfortunately it begins with bad parenting practices in certain ancestral countries which then perpetuates with the reduction in nuclear family structures and multiplies by the generations.

Focusing on only a part of this chain hasn't resolved anything as damage has already been done, I feel the correct task would be to assist at the start of new generations, as well as tackle the obvious links they have previously attempted (which you mention in your post).


If kids have a strong familial structure and adequate parenting then their chances of falling into this lifestyle would be greatly reduced.

Unfortunately it isn't that simple now as, even with the above, the task to adequately raise children in poverished estates which have been allowed to deteriorate to this level raises the chances of still becoming part of such a the lifestyle.
 
dowie said:
LOL I suspect that is what has happened here too.

@deuse you have a short username beginning with a "d" - IIRC you are a bit old, putting aside the rather uncharitable description given by @hurfdurf have you by any chance mentioned being elderly and disabled on these forums? If so I suspect I've been mistaken for you.
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lol probably. Can hardly blame me for getting you lot mixed up.
 
Lysander said:
I think part of the problem is that people don't read posts or answer questions properly.
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Definitely saw someone point out that one of the regular GD super stars cried about being old and disabled when their posts were shown to be utter trash after they tried giving it the big one. It made me chuckle.
 
hurfdurf said:
Definitely saw someone point out that one of the regular GD super stars cried about being old and disabled when their posts were shown to be utter trash after they tried giving it the big one. It made me chuckle.
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That’s classy, so there is some poster on here who is old and disabled, you can’t remember who it is but you find it funny for some reason? You also get easily confused and randomly accuse other people of being that poster when you’re upset at some point of view and are not capable of formulating an argument in response.
 
dowie said:
That’s classy, so there is some poster on here who is old and disabled, you can’t remember who it is but you find it funny for some reason? You also get easily confused and randomly accuse other people of being that poster when you’re upset at some point of view and are not capable of formulating an argument in response.
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being old or disabled isn’t the funny part
 
Remember this thread about some members of our wonderful urban youth....

dowie said:
The Guardian published a piece on him too:

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2...one-helps-us-round-here-music-is-the-only-way
“I’m trying to get out the hood, and the easiest way of doing that is making music,” says Bandokay. “It’s my way of escaping gang life and achieving a better life. I wanna move my mum into a house. Music puts legal money into my account. No one helps us round here. So music is the only way.”
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Sure... seems like an easier way might be to not join a gang, stay in school and then get some qualifications but I guess he's got some rather dubious role models.
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It turns out that Bandokay's attempt to "get out the hood" via drill music has had a bit of a hiccup after he's been found guilty of possessing a firearm and ammunition with intent to endanger life...


Funnily enough, that's the same thing that got his gangster father shot by the police, resulting in half a council estate marching on the local Police station to demand immediate answers and "justice" and then days of rioting in London.
 
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