VW's, what is it about them?

[TW]Fox said:
There was a little bit of friction getting into 5th gear, so BMW replaced the entire transmission under warranty. I posted on a one make specific website to ask about it.

So, not quite 'it fell out on the move and he had to tell another forum about it' :p

I thought it was the ninja badgers tampering with it myself?? :D
 
PMKeates said:
Half the reason cars like the GTI aren't as "special" as they used to be, is because the normal equivelants back then were absolutely horrific. Something that had a decent wedge of power and sorted handling was absolutely fantastic in comparison, whereas today even a 1.6 FSI Golf can get you from A->B fairly quickly. This leaves VW with only so much further they can go with the R32 etc.

This is simply not true - the reason why the old GTI was not special was becuase it had 114bhp.
 
MNuTz said:
Never speak to fox about VW's. he doesnt 'get' them do you mate? :D many a time we've had a disagreement about them. He likes his cars that are comfortable, comes with a label like BMWs (ie. high status) do and it must always be great value for money. Thats fair enough, thats what he likes and he has respect from me for it.

Actually, I do get them. I don't dislike VW's as cars. I've suggested Bora's, Passats etc to people on here on numerous occasions, for example. I think the Mk5 GTI is a proper GTI and a great car (Note I didn't post LOL THE R32 SUCKS GET A 330i I said 'a GTI is better'), I like the styling on the Mk4 Anniversary (With the 1.8T ;), etc etc. But people don't tend to notice this, or don't want to notice this, as we often see in this forum its far too easy to just pretend I think XYZ and constantly preach about it..

What does nark me however is the ownership attitude that sometimes goes with them, as if they have the best car ever when actually a VW is little more special than a Ford. VW have an un-deserved reputation for peerless quality and reliability - this irritates me slightly. A Focus is as reliable, if not more so, as a Golf, and much of the Seat stable gets close on quality.

This thread is EXACTLY what I mean - we have two people bigging up the Golf constantly for no real reason other than, well, its a Golf. And they have Golfs. They are not even familier with the Golf product range and can't really give a tangiable reason to support their recommendation of a Golf. We've seen this in several threads this week.

I'm sure many of you will actually say 'Hang on, don't you do the same with BMW's?. No, I don't. I rarely recommend them, I don't spend all my time telling you how reliable are and I don't constantly post that 5 series will pwn all other cars, lol. I love my car, I'm happy with it, but I'm prepared to accept it isn't everyones cup of tea.

Some of the VW enthusiasts ought to try this.

Im a VW nut, i prefer the older shapes with the newer mechanics fitted. I would love to rip the back seats out from one of my corrados and fit an R32 engine into the middle/rear. I doubt fox would approve as it will cost around £6K+ and i could buy a better car, newer car for the money.

Thing is, I *do* approve of that. Further proof I'm not an irrational VW hater can be found in the fact I check LJ's Golf thread daily. It fascinates me. It's a true projet, a real hobby, as as would fitting an R32 engine into the middle of a Corrado.

Fitting an R32 into engine a Corrado is an utterly pointless waste of money BUT you probably agree, and you wouldn't defend it as a sensible thing to do. You know it would be daft but you'd do it anyway becuase it's a damn good hobby and you'd thoroughly enjoy it. That's great, and deserves nothing but respect.

It's also completely different to going OMG LOL GOLF *** COS I LIKE HAVE A 1.6 INNIT.
 
Booner! said:
I thought that the 1.6 was a sowing machine, depends what people consider getting around fast i suppose. it does the speed limit nicely anyways.. :)

Well fast isn't just about an engine. I drove my ex's 1.6 FSI Golf briefly and it had more rolls than Tesco :eek:
 
Can't stand them myself..Don't see what the fuss is :eek:

Agree that the GTI lost it's way a LOT in mk3/4 form, infact the mk4 was embarrassing & tried to trade purely on the brand. However they have come a long way in getting it back on track with the mk5..Not perfect agreed, & overpriced if I am honest when compared to the other similar marques, but as an overall package it fits my needs perfectly.

If we all liked the same things the world would be a boring place!

Loving my mk5 GTI :p
 
[TW]Fox said:
What does nark me however is the ownership attitude that sometimes goes with them, as if they have the best car ever when actually a VW is little more special than a Ford.


and you dont do that regarding BMW ?

everyone is going to support the brand of car they own and tell people its the greatest

unless its french :p
 
andy said:
and you dont do that regarding BMW ?

I even took the trouble to address that in my post..

Show me one post I have made in the last month in a serious capacity where I said, for example, that you should buy a BMW instead of an Audi becuase the BMW is 'just better, its a BMW'.

I don't do it. Infact I rarely bother to even recommend BM's simply becuase I cannot be bothered with the subsequent backlash I inevitably receive from this forum.

There is an ENTIRE thread somewhere on here about buying 4 cylinder VW/Audi's. I post in it quite a lot about the A4. Not once do I post 'its rubbish, get a 3 series', even though generally speaking, thats what I personally would do.

everyone is going to support the brand of car they own and tell people its the greatest

Which is great. I welcome it and wish everyone would do it... PROVIDED they can backup their arguement, when challenged, with coherent opinion that makes sense. It doesn't need to be right - nobodys opinion is right - it just needs to stand up to scrutiny.
 
im 21... just!

oh.. ill be driving on of these before my 22nd

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I'll let you off then (Not that I actually have anything against Fiestas, it was just a feacitous (i win at the spelling) reply back to you) provided you dont buy it in pink :p
 
Weren't you the bloke who told me buying a Mini Cooper would make me the biggest mincer fag ever? :p

Bah on reviewing the thread it wasn't you :(

When you guys were talking about the 1.6, don't underestimate it. Sure, it's no power hungry monster but it's surprisingly quick. The difference between my 1.4 MK5 and my mate's 1.6 MK4 is enormous. His is without a doubt miles quicker, but I still prefer the look of the MK5 so meh to his 1.6 crap.
 
Tommy B said:
Weren't you the bloke who told me buying a Mini Cooper would make me the biggest mincer fag ever? :p

Bah on reviewing the thread it wasn't you :(

When you guys were talking about the 1.6, don't underestimate it. Sure, it's no power hungry monster but it's surprisingly quick. The difference between my 1.4 MK5 and my mate's 1.6 MK4 is enormous. His is without a doubt miles quicker, but I still prefer the look of the MK5 so meh to his 1.6 crap.

oi i got one of them ! quiet you slowcoach! :)
 
Booner! said:
Agreed. exactly what i tried to explain and failed ;)

Example of a cult car - fanatic? fantastic!

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17689394


Whoa!

I've NEVER been in to the VW scene, I actually hated them before I got the Golf. My project car could have been anything that was cheap to buy, had tax and mot that happened to be in the paper that week! For me with the project it's actually building the thing more than what car it is. I will always be a CAR fanatic rather than a VW fanatic!

I dont get the VW thing either, yes the old ones are well built and last compared to other cars manufactured in the same era. The new ones seem like any other mass produced car today, reasonably reliable, reasonably built but ultimately dull!
 
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