Poll: War - yes/no?

Do you think there should be war on Iraq

  • Yes

    Votes: 275 68.9%
  • No

    Votes: 124 31.1%

  • Total voters
    399
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Originally posted by Slime101
I say NO - i refuse to support them, i think its un-nessecary and pointless.

Tony Blair and Geroge Bush are Idiots - warmongering Foolish idiots, - as is Colin Powell.

Do you know something they don't? How can you say its pointless?

Altho the poll on this forum might suggest the majority wants war - the NATIONAL poll as it stands shows 44% against - thats the majority!

AFAIK there has been no official poll conducted. Where is this information from?
 
Originally posted by [TW]Fox
Do you know something they don't? How can you say its pointless?



AFAIK there has been no official poll conducted. Where is this information from?


Gallup, Mori, someone professional?
 
There was a machine designed for shredding plastic. Men were dropped into it and we were again made to watch. Sometimes they went in head first and died quickly. Sometimes they went in feet first and died screaming. It was horrible. I saw 30 people die like this. Their remains would be placed in plastic bags and we were told they would be used as fish food . . . on one occasion, I saw Qusay [President Saddam Hussein’s youngest son] personally supervise these murders.

people where being dematerialized while the nuclear bombs detonated over hiroshima and nagazaki, people where burned alive from the napalm bombs, people where chocking to death from the gazes in vietnam, people where being bombed inside hospitals in cosovo, i didnt see qusay, it was the usaf
 
Originally posted by pyro
people where being dematerialized while the nuclear bombs detonated over hiroshima and nagazaki, people where burned alive from the napalm bombs, people where chocking to death from the gazes in vietnam, people where being bombed inside hospitals in cosovo, i didnt see qusay, it was the usaf
Um, during Vietnam, a war Britain played no part in. There was widespread outrage, burning of flags etc. and US soldiers came home to a rather unpleasant reception. I don't agree with the us of nuclear weapons in WW2 either. I don't undertand your point, you're refering to wartime incidents where I'm referring to a country which during peace time grinds people up in machines ffs! :mad: this is a country that tortures, mutilates and executes in horrible fashion its citizens. :mad:
 
A pointless war? After today's debate in the HoC I'm more convinced it's needed as Saddam has yet to account for thousands of litres of chemical weapons (big desert to hide them in), has stalled on inspections on numerous occasions, has had plenty of 'final chances' and has been caught trying to develop nuclear weapons by Jordan authorities (of all countries to find it).

Questions: Do you think Blair or Bush would use chemical/nuclear weapons on his own people? Do you think they would expell 4 million of their own population, murder innocent civilians for speaking out against them or murder people after saying 'all is forgiven, come back, we won't hurt you'? :rolleyes:

If there's one thing to learn from history is that if you attack American's on American soil expect major retribution and revenge. Just look at Japan after Pearl Harbour.
 
Originally posted by pyro
people where being dematerialized while the nuclear bombs detonated over hiroshima and nagazaki, people where burned alive from the napalm bombs, people where chocking to death from the gazes in vietnam, people where being bombed inside hospitals in cosovo, i didnt see qusay, it was the usaf

Firstly Even the japanese have said that those that died in the first two A-bombs that you have quoted "PREVENTED" far more from dying if the war were to have continued.

The Vietcong didnt do anything nasty to the Yanks out there at all did they, no they just drank tea all day and sang songs.

The germans didnt invent the BlitzKrieg, and carpet bombing in WW2 either.

Wars hurt & kill people, they are unpleasant, they are not supposed to be nice, but if they prevent humanity from suffering in the long run then so be it.
 
I voted no.

If the US wants to invade Iraq then fine. But there is NO REASON AT ALL for the UK to get involved.

When was the last time that there was a terrorist attack on Britain that wasn't anything to do with N.Ireland?? After this the chances are gonna be a lot higher...
 
Originally posted by Slime101
Altho the poll on this forum might suggest the majority wants war - the NATIONAL poll as it stands shows 44% against - thats the majority!

i don't recall voting in this NATIONAL poll? nor do my family/friends. ;)

Generally the polls on sky news etc are ignored by the majority of pro-war people, whereas those anti-war will go out of their way to say no.
 
Originally posted by afraser2k
A pointless war? After today's debate in the HoC I'm more convinced it's needed as Saddam has yet to account for thousands of litres of chemical weapons (big desert to hide them in), has stalled on inspections on numerous occasions, has had plenty of 'final chances' and has been caught trying to develop nuclear weapons by Jordan authorities (of all countries to find it).

Questions: Do you think Blair or Bush would use chemical/nuclear weapons on his own people? Do you think they would expell 4 million of their own population, murder innocent civilians for speaking out against them or murder people after saying 'all is forgiven, come back, we won't hurt you'? :rolleyes:

If there's one thing to learn from history is that if you attack American's on American soil expect major retribution and revenge. Just look at Japan after Pearl Harbour.


When has Iraq attacked the US?
 
I voted yes, for many different reasons, not least after talking with an Iraqi couple who live not far from me; however I still have many reservations as well.

This may interest some of you:

A YouGov opinion poll for ITV News on Tuesday suggested that Mr Blair is winning over public option for a war on Iraq.

A total of 50% said they supported military action, while 42% said they were against.

That excerpt is taken from here.
 
Originally posted by DirtyBerty
i don't recall voting in this NATIONAL poll? nor do my family/friends. ;)

Generally the polls on sky news etc are ignored by the majority of pro-war people, whereas those anti-war will go out of their way to say no.


That would be a referendum not a national poll.

Sky news eh? I ignore Jon Cravens News Round Polls too. Do you want to quote that?
 
Originally posted by silverpaw
Um, during Vietnam, a war Britain played no part in. There was widespread outrage, burning of flags etc. and US soldiers came home to a rather unpleasant reception. I don't agree with the us of nuclear weapons in WW2 either. I don't undertand your point, you're refering to wartime incidents where I'm referring to a country which during peace time grinds people up in machines ffs! :mad: this is a country that tortures, mutilates and executes in horrible fashion its citizens. :mad:

uhhh, well, i guess wartime is when the us is fighting and everything is ok, but when someone else does something then he should be killed...

Originally posted by DustyMiller
Firstly Even the japanese have said that those that died in the first two A-bombs that you have quoted "PREVENTED" far more from dying if the war were to have continued.

when did they say that? i am curius to know, even so, that doesnt mean that you can nuke someone

The Vietcong didnt do anything nasty to the Yanks out there at all did they, no they just drank tea all day and sang songs.

OHH!!!! those bad people!!! they where defending their land!!!! THEY HAVE TO DIE IN HELL FOR THAT!!!

The germans didnt invent the BlitzKrieg, and carpet bombing in WW2 either.

i dont know what that is, can you please explain?

Wars hurt & kill people, they are unpleasant, they are not supposed to be nice, but if they prevent humanity from suffering in the long run then so be it.

oh, well kids in iraq have been suffering for 12 yrs, so we can just kill them so they can stop suffering, hey i have a headache, kill me please!!!
 
Originally posted by Diablo2 Addict
When has Iraq attacked the US?

How about every chance it gets within their newspapers, or offering suicide bombers' families payment for services rendered? I don't just mean large-scale attacks. Try and answer my whole post rather than one point as well.

Interesting read on possible future targets: http://www.fas.org/news/iraq/2002/ciareport.htm
 
Iraq is a country which:
  • Tourtures it's own people.
  • Executes people without trial, beheading in the street is popular.
  • Gassed 60 000 of its own citizens as they went about everyday business.
  • Invades neighbouring countries, Kuwait for example.
  • Persistantly tries to create chemical, biological and nuclear weapons, against UN resolutions set out after the last war.
  • Has broke resolution 1441 by not declaring the whereabouts of chemical weapons we hnow they have, nor proving they've been destroyed.
  • Have persistently ****** about, threatened and spied on weapons inspectors.
What possible reason is there NOT to remove Saddam?!
 
At nopoint has the US said they would premtibly use any WOMD, they have said that they would retaliate if any were used against them.

At what point have we actually killed civillain yet, We havent so stop going on as if the US is just going to flatten Iraq, it wont, if it does any support it has will evaporate. Right behind the troops is a huge pile of aid, just like in Afghanistan, as soon as it is safe to distribute it it will go out.

"BlitzKrieg" or lightning war was when the germans just sent as many bobmbers and escorts to level a city overnight. No lets keep the civillians safe. A war is a war people die. but there will be no indiscriminate targeting over there, they will go after legitimate military target, some they will get wrong, but not for the want of trying.
 
Originally posted by silverpaw
Iraq is a country which:
  • Tourtures it's own people.
  • Executes people without trial, beheading in the street is popular.
  • Gassed 60 000 of its own citizens as they went about everyday business.
  • Invades neighbouring countries, Kuwait for example.
  • Persistantly tries to create chemical, biological and nuclear weapons, against UN resolutions set out after the last war.
  • Has broke resolution 1441 by not declaring the whereabouts of chemical weapons we hnow they have, nor proving they've been destroyed.
  • Have persistently ****** about, threatened and spied on weapons inspectors.
What possible reason is there NOT to remove Saddam?!

Thats 3 reasons then?
 
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