GW has obviously gone over everything with a fine tooth comb a thousand times and then some !
They like their IP to be 100% how it is and zero deviance.
Warhammer 40k (Henry Cavill and Amazon)
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GW has obviously gone over everything with a fine tooth comb a thousand times and then some !
They like their IP to be 100% how it is and zero deviance.
Caporegime
We haven't even got to that point yet, there are no scripts. Unless they've spent a year arguing for creative control.
Commissario
It's not that uncommon, often scripts and books are optioned for 5-10 years before any firm deal is made, and then it can be another 5-10 before it hits the screen. IIRC Cemeron had the rights to Alita continiously optioned for about 20+ years before it got made into a film, and a lot of authors have noted that their books have been optioned for 5+ years before the option got renewed or dropped.
This deal seems to have hit the "prescript but funding/basic stuff agreed" stage fairly quickly given the scale of the IP.
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That's pretty much exactly what they've been doing - agreeing the 'creative guidelines' before proceeding with anything else.
2023 Press Release:
2024 Press Release:
Caporegime
Well, until they change something in the book and ignore everything that was written previously.
Caporegime
Their IP has changed a lot since they first started, it's never been a fixed thing
Commissario
Yup
A lot of the early lore was very much jokes and references to other things (most of the early character models for example were parodies of things like Zulu for the battle at Orcs drift, Arnie, Mad Donna etc), they've expanded on it a lot and tried to make it a little more coherent/defendable as trademarks, and they've always had it canon that in 40k for example there are contradictions due to damaged records, different versions of the same records, time, distance etc and it's mentioned a few times that there have been schisms/mini civil wars in the imperial burocracy about all sorts of things (not to mention the inquisition etc deliberately attempting to hide stuff), and that even the date has been in dispute and caused minor (as in only a few planetary systems at a time getting involved in fighting) disputes
It's one of the reasons I had to laugh at the fuss over custodes, when people were saying "they've always been men" when AFAIK the only actual lore about their gender was about a line from the perspective of outsiders who'd only ever seen them in their armour, and made assumptions*, and the only undisputed lore about who/what they are was that they were individually created to a higher standard than the Space Marines and hunt chaos marines in a labyrinth for fun and training. So absolutely zero reason for them to be men only, as Space Marines rely on the geneseed from their founders/primarchs and the potential candidates have to be matched to that as opposed the to modifications being tailored to the candidate as happens with custards.
*As it was IIRC from the perspective of a high ranking imperial noble watching a couple of custodes in a parade or something, with the great sons of the hive world's army or something.
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Forgive me werewolf, but it's so weird that you would bring that up knowing that it's a controversial topic, and then dedicate two whole paragraphs to it. Nonetheless I shall respond as it's obviously something you're looking for. My take is that the custodes should not be looked at as male or female. They should barely be looked at as human as they've had anything that made them human superceded by their geneseed in the same way the adeptus mechanicus can barely be described as human at this point. The entire point of 40k is exactly what it says on the tin: "In the grim darkness of the 41st millenium, there is only war" - a finite war against the warp that the imperium is losing on a daily basis; for the custodes the subject of gender is as moot as the concept of what they had for dinner last night.
I understand that my fellow geeks are canon fixated (which let's be honest, is the core problem). Lore expands. Things change and I often wish that aside from the occasional hero characters games workshop would just keep the helmet on so that the people paying the bills (i.e. the customers) could have some agency in their armies and build their own legends. For me the bad guys here are games workshop for feeding into culture wars nonsense in the first place.
Edit: I will say that if they absolutely insist on rocking the boat and they don't pick a female actress that's positiveiy amazonian, I'm going to be exceedingly disappointed - and I am in favour of any such cast member being a member of the Adepta Sororitas more than changing the core chapters in any fundamental way on screen.
I understand that my fellow geeks are canon fixated (which let's be honest, is the core problem). Lore expands. Things change and I often wish that aside from the occasional hero characters games workshop would just keep the helmet on so that the people paying the bills (i.e. the customers) could have some agency in their armies and build their own legends. For me the bad guys here are games workshop for feeding into culture wars nonsense in the first place.
Edit: I will say that if they absolutely insist on rocking the boat and they don't pick a female actress that's positiveiy amazonian, I'm going to be exceedingly disappointed - and I am in favour of any such cast member being a member of the Adepta Sororitas more than changing the core chapters in any fundamental way on screen.
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I heard a rumour it'll be about a whole new chapter of LGBTQ+ Space Marines fighting the TERF hordes of Xenos and middle aged
I'm exhausted just reading that.
They (Warhammer) already did the female custodies retcon in Tithes on Warhammer+.
To be honest no person I have spoken to about this has a problem with female custodes, the problem came from some woke idiot at GW HQ stating "they have always existed" and "you are the problem" type followups.
There were infinately better ways to introduce them, sisters of silence getting leveled up, something that Cawl managed to cook up from his time working on Primaris Marines, or *insert something from one of the most expansive lore IP's going*.
I wasn't aware, I've been a little preoccupied, and my hobbies have suffered as a consequence - I'll check it out.
I just caught up with with all the Warhammer + content at the weekend.
If that’s the way Female Custodies are going to be then why do it. It was just a lady dude that acted and looked like a man. The Sister of Silence was awesome.
Men and women are different if they ain’t going to display that in the writing or on the screen then what’s the point.
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you can't tell people that. It's easier to point the finger and call someone prejudiced than admit that the problem is that fanbases generally like narrative to make sense, and you don't get that kind of storytelling from someone with poor literacy skills.
I mean custodes are not really human, and are absolutely nothing like a marine either.
Female custodes are fine, I like it.
I think that was kind of my point - Custodes may in theory look like men, but anything that made them biologically human men was eradicated long ago when they began their transformation.
Sorry kind of misunderstood you originally but yes.
If anything they should be genderless I guess
Associate
if anyone missed it check out and they shall know no fear on amazon, better animated than anything gw has put out that's for sure
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it has left me concluding that if Amazon don't use the opportunity to output some of that kind of animation in an attempt to go toe to toe with netflix, they're idiots.