No, that's not what I said at all. I merely countered someone's suggestion that the specs can't be bumped. Of course they can.
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No, that's not what I said at all. I merely countered someone's suggestion that the specs can't be bumped. Of course they can.
So, it's not waterproof then
Meaning I'd have to take off every time I wash my hands etc.
If you submerged your hands half way up to your forearm then yes, you would have to take it off, but alas I can't think of a time when I have ever seen such hand washing activities...
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Everything I've read for the Moto watch says 12hr battery and 24hrs is "basically impossible".
I like the look of the Moto but not even 1 day's use? Bad.
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Yeah the design of the Moto 360 is spot on I think, the battery life is pretty bad thou. Apple has a lot right, the fitness stuff is great I think, its exactly what I want, the design is not the best, and the rest is just meh, I don't need a super complicated home page with tiny icons, i don't need a gallery on my watch, I don't wanna send taps and heartbeats.
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Thats the point, the Apple watch does far too many things, can you honestly tell me you will ever want too have a gallery on your watch?
Mostly what I like about the Moto 360 is the design, and how it has wireless charging, don't think anyone has the UI down or the feature set and are just throwing out their best guess for now.
Mostly what I like about the Moto 360 is the design, and how it has wireless charging, don't think anyone has the UI down or the feature set and are just throwing out their best guess for now.
GPS is one of the biggest power drainers in mobile phones - it'd destroy a watch battery in no time.
I have tried most of the smart watches over the last 12 months and only the Pebble came close to what I want. Simplicity is key to the smartwatch, it needs to do those things where it stops you bringing your phone out of your pocket.
One click access to media player. The Pebble was good for this as it was one click for play/pause.
Let me delete emails easily and quickly.
Notify me of incoming calls when I am in the garden and the phone is in the house.
Give me simple directions when using maps.
Reminders.
Good battery or an elegant charging solution.
I don't want photos or to make and receive calls on the watch, I can pull my phone out for that. Simple is best.
One click access to media player. The Pebble was good for this as it was one click for play/pause.
Let me delete emails easily and quickly.
Notify me of incoming calls when I am in the garden and the phone is in the house.
Give me simple directions when using maps.
Reminders.
Good battery or an elegant charging solution.
I don't want photos or to make and receive calls on the watch, I can pull my phone out for that. Simple is best.
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Apple the new Samsung?
So with almost ever phone Samsung releases in recent history there has always been a number of feature that where done only for advertising reasons. They didn't really bring much use to the end user, and most of the times where over complex and fixed problems that didn't need fixing.
Now when I was watching the keynote the Apple Watch came across as a Samsung product, I saw useless gimmick feature after useless gimmick feature.
There is a lot right with this device. but at the same time it seems so mess, the UI is not very intuitive, it does way too much, it has far too many useless features. Its not the typically focused Apple product, and it looks like whoever was in charge didn't say no enough. So many of the features I list really are advertising/demo products, once I see the travel to the moon thing I won't ever want to do it again, moreover if I hit it my mistake then I've just wasted my own time.
The health stuff for example I think are spot on, and I really like it, the different bands again shows a company that has it together but I think they really need to go back and slim down what it does to the barebones, notifications, fitness, time related tasks, and a few select apps that are very useful with everything else being a 3rd party add on.
The custom SoC is also great, I was dying for Moto 360 to use something custom tailored to the watch, and maybe work on the 8X platform they started with the OG Moto X but was let down. I think just using phone SoC downclocked is wrong, there totally different product categories. The taptic feedback also seems great, I've heard a lot of people complain their Android Wear smartwatches was very loud when it vibrated and that would ruin the whole ideal of being discrete I feel. You also know that every designer is going to jump onboard soon and have a line of watchbands and that ecosystem is just going to grow and grow and grow.
That section of the keynote was hugely cringe worthy at times, and the features all struck me as something Samsung might do. The part where he demos how he tells his co-worker to go lunch was painful, almost as painful as when Tim and Bono touched fingers, ouch.
Without actual seeing it in person, or much more outside of demos and the keynote I think its the most interesting smart watch, but also the most confusing at times.
So with almost ever phone Samsung releases in recent history there has always been a number of feature that where done only for advertising reasons. They didn't really bring much use to the end user, and most of the times where over complex and fixed problems that didn't need fixing.
Now when I was watching the keynote the Apple Watch came across as a Samsung product, I saw useless gimmick feature after useless gimmick feature.
- Travelling to the Moon
- Seeing a live image of the solar system
- Weird 3d smileys
- Drawing to each other on a watch
- Tapping to each other - this made me cringe so hard in the keynote. Oh when I want to meet my friend for lunch I send him this 3 tap pattern. No, no you don't.
- Sending your heart beat??? Meh
- Remote camera? I could see it being useful for a DSRL on a tripod, not so much an iPhone.
- Photos. Yes I've always wanted to view my pictures on a 1.5" display, over a 4"+ display.
There is a lot right with this device. but at the same time it seems so mess, the UI is not very intuitive, it does way too much, it has far too many useless features. Its not the typically focused Apple product, and it looks like whoever was in charge didn't say no enough. So many of the features I list really are advertising/demo products, once I see the travel to the moon thing I won't ever want to do it again, moreover if I hit it my mistake then I've just wasted my own time.
The health stuff for example I think are spot on, and I really like it, the different bands again shows a company that has it together but I think they really need to go back and slim down what it does to the barebones, notifications, fitness, time related tasks, and a few select apps that are very useful with everything else being a 3rd party add on.
The custom SoC is also great, I was dying for Moto 360 to use something custom tailored to the watch, and maybe work on the 8X platform they started with the OG Moto X but was let down. I think just using phone SoC downclocked is wrong, there totally different product categories. The taptic feedback also seems great, I've heard a lot of people complain their Android Wear smartwatches was very loud when it vibrated and that would ruin the whole ideal of being discrete I feel. You also know that every designer is going to jump onboard soon and have a line of watchbands and that ecosystem is just going to grow and grow and grow.
That section of the keynote was hugely cringe worthy at times, and the features all struck me as something Samsung might do. The part where he demos how he tells his co-worker to go lunch was painful, almost as painful as when Tim and Bono touched fingers, ouch.
Without actual seeing it in person, or much more outside of demos and the keynote I think its the most interesting smart watch, but also the most confusing at times.
Agreed, although the iPhone was originally demonstrated as an awesome phone and iPod.
I think we'll see better use cases in the future, particularly once third party devs take a look. It also looks like they're going to go round at some point, the UI looks set for it.
I think we'll see better use cases in the future, particularly once third party devs take a look. It also looks like they're going to go round at some point, the UI looks set for it.
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So Gruber has posted his Apple Watch piece. If he's on the money about what WatchKit will enable the Watch starts to look a bit more interesting from a functional perspective.
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Isn't the watch essentially useless without the phone it's connected to? If so I don't really see the benefit to long battery life - even if the watch lasts three days, the iPhone probably won't.
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Yes the Watch is an extension of the phone, not much use without it, although it's not clear what stuff it can/can't do without the phone being nearby. The charging method (induction) is obviously different though.
You can get a couple of days out of the 6 Plus. I'd be ok with nightly charging of the Watch if that means after a day of heavy use it still has a tiny bit in the tank. Something that you'd need to be conservative with your use of would be a disaster, since the whole point of the thing is to handle a load of the basic communication with people/notifications/map directions/reminders without having to keep getting the phone out of your pocket.