Waterfox

Yeah, that is true mrk and I have no problem with that sort of RAM being used when I have load of tabs opened or the high res screenshot thread etc. but for only 4 -6 tabs of mainly text web pages, something isn't right, waterfox 9 was fine for memory usage and only ever went above 700MB usage when the high res screenshot thread was opened.

Haha I know :D, I don't mind up to 500MB being used for that, but 600MB to 1GB as opposed to about 310MB (for firefox 10) and about 350-400MB (for waterfox 9) is a bit too much (not that it is much of a problem with 8GB of RAM), but still it is rather concerning :p


I have read that a few other people have the same problem with WF 10 on the official thread for waterfox. Could be an add-on causing the problem with WF possibly?
 
Tried Waterfox, but it still suffers from the annoying UI lag that Firefox does. I get the lag when switching to the Facebook tab as well. Never found a way to solve it (apart from switching to Chrome!)

ArnieRambo said:
there is this program called MSN...its been out for many years
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The fact that you're comparing MSN Messenger to Facebook shows that you don't really know how Facebook works...
 
Nexus18 said:
Yeah, that is true mrk and I have no problem with that sort of RAM being used when I have load of tabs opened or the high res screenshot thread etc. but for only 4 -6 tabs of mainly text web pages, something isn't right, waterfox 9 was fine for memory usage and only ever went above 700MB usage when the high res screenshot thread was opened.

Haha I know :D, I don't mind up to 500MB being used for that, but 600MB to 1GB as opposed to about 310MB (for firefox 10) and about 350-400MB (for waterfox 9) is a bit too much (not that it is much of a problem with 8GB of RAM), but still it is rather concerning :p


I have read that a few other people have the same problem with WF 10 on the official thread for waterfox. Could be an add-on causing the problem with WF possibly?
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Not sure but certainly none of my addons are causing problems.
 
Thx gonna give waterfox a try

I was about to post the issues ive had with firefox over past 2 years, sometimes the websites text and pictures just look like its in a table format?

I tried turning of gpu acceleration and reseting font nothing fixes it for to long other then uninstall and reload.

I tried firefox 10 and had issues with spellcheck but fixed it with downloading the dictionary uk addon, but quite strange with firefox.

I would use Chrome/opera but they do not have a decent sidebar for favorites... only ie8 and firefox showed decent sidebars and quick access for favs.

Anyhow will give WF a try !
 
That's funny, I was only reading about Waterfox and Pale Moon a couple of days ago and was going to make a thread about it.

I hope it improves Firefox, it used to be fantastic but now it had just turned into a resource hog, I do have around 30-40 tabs open at any one time but it just gobbes RAM and doesn't release it. It was holding over 1GB worth the other day, when I closed it and then started it up again it was only using 300MB...madness.

Quick question though (it may be a daft one!)...do we know that Waterfox/Pale Moon are going to be secure to use...is it just as safe to do your internet banking with them as it would be with Firefox.

With Firefox we know who makes it but these other browsers are a bit unknown, to me at least.
 
Use IE for Battlelog, DICE need to update it for 64bit, not browser vendor.
 
You know it's only x64 extensions like battlelog that are preventing widespread conversion to x64 browsers. IE has been x64 for years, some companies are just lazy unfortunately. I've got facebook as an app tab and have no lag at all, however I do have pipelining enabled (remember ff is limited to max 8 requests)

Memory use in wf10 is higher than you'd expect, 6-800MB with 10 tabs and hd video in my instance, however I've always found the "too" much ram argument odd. Sure, on some limited systems ram is a constraint, but on most machines you open resource monitor you'll find between 1&6GB just being cached. I agree from a coding perspective the browser should be using less, but the truth is there's not much point in having plenty of ram if you don't want programs to use it when they want to.

Something those people may also wish to think about is the reason chrome out performs other browsers in (largely irrelevant for the average user) benchmarks is because it uses more hardware when it needs it. More ram, more cpu, gpu and more hd (having 5GB cache is quite normal). Waterfox not only outperforms ff but chrome too if you bench it and it's using the same amount of ram...

In the end you simply have to find something you're comfortable using and wf is easy to switch to, uses you're current settings and addons and doesn't suffer the performance hit of running x86 code on x64 cpus - something particularly evident on older or slower chips e.g. every laptop. For security well, if in doubt - don't. However everything with mozilla accreditation is open source, thus checkable, but i.e. is still the most secure browser around, the x64 more so.
 
Anyone using the UX/nightly 64 bit builds?

Just trying it out now and DAMN! It is very fast/snappy and extremely smooth! :eek: I thought waterfox was great but this seems much better and a bigger difference than what it is between FF and WF.

Also smoother scrolling as well along with a few UI changes, which look nicer.

Memory usage is pretty much the same as waterfox.


All add-ons appear to work fine so far........

Seriously recommend people who use waterfox and even firefox to try these builds out!

Eventually it will have this new UI (based on the australis theme), which will be standard:

http://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/ux-presentation/ux-presentation.html

Can download from here:

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-ux/

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In this build you also have the new tab page, which is pretty much the same as chrome's home tab page. But speed dial is much better still! :p
 
Sounds good but I don't want to get into the habit of updating to a new nightly every other day like I used to (and like I do with MPC-HC right now :p).

Faff, I dislike it!
 
But but.......the MASSIVE improvements you would gain! Plus you know you want to and will eventually give in just like you do with new ROMs for the GS 2! :p :D
 
I might tickle it a bit, but only tomorrow.

Which one do I download? There are several executables.


I've entered a bad place now....
 
Hmm ta, are you on an SSD?

I've been giving it a whirl just now (brought my playtime forwards somewhat) and found it to behave and perform no different to Waterfox really. Same profile. Load times were the same, page scrolling and rendering, same.

Only difference was that on UX it doesn't support Windows 7 taskbar features yet so you cannot pin websites to it.

Because of that alone I cannot use it as a daily browser!
 
Unfortunately not :(

Hmm weird, maybe cause you're already on a SSD, you won't notice much of a difference then? What about memory usage?


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That works fine for me!

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The smooth scrolling (just scrolling by using the mouse wheel up and down, not middle clicking) will only apply if you haven't got an addon installed like auto scroll chromium or whatever other addons there are for that. I think you use one?

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Hmm, if you use the middle wheel very slowly it scrolls slowly and smoothly but do it quickly and it is pretty much the same as previous versions. I rather like that!
 
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Taskbar pinned items definitely not working on mine! Ram usage I never checked, never concerned me about browsers really!
 
Strange that. Maybe try reinstalling again, probably won't work though :( Worth a shot anyway.

If not, just use speed dial and you're sorted then! :p


Also noticed some animations regarding the tabs, when closing them, don't think I have seen that before or maybe they just tweaked it so it is more noticeable and smoother now.

Another neat thing is when loading images in a blank tab, they now have a dark grey background instead of white, easier on the eyes and makes the images stand out more!

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BTW I have the stock firefox version installed as well, if that makes any difference.
 
Tab animations when opening/closing have always been there :p

I think I will stick to Waterfox tbh, performance is no different but I guess that's due to the SSD!
 
TheBigCheese said:
Quick question though (it may be a daft one!)...do we know that Waterfox/Pale Moon are going to be secure to use...is it just as safe to do your internet banking with them as it would be with Firefox.

With Firefox we know who makes it but these other browsers are a bit unknown, to me at least.
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I'd like to know this too...
 
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