We hate Valentines thread

Is it wrong that i've spent more on my lunch at work than I have on my girlfriend for Valentines Day? :D

You utter **** :p

If lunch didn't include paté de fois gras, lobster thermidore, truffles and bollinger at the Ritz, you're going straight to hell. You may as well be having an affair if you didn't spend at least £200 on your girlfriend, you cad.

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None of these repsonses suprise my, i should imagine a high percentage of you are nerds. :D
Valentines day is their cryptonite.
LOL :D

Well this is where we differ, I see past the commercialism and I am far from Christian but I use these dates every year to take a moment to stop, celebrate and reflect on the best things in my life.

You could say "well I respect fallen soldiers all the time so we don't need Remembrance Sunday".....but thats not the point is it.

The difference with making things an official day and not just when you want is that you and those around you go into these days with a different mind set. Official days give a common bond, that you cannot disagree with.
Well put.

I'm not using VD......hold on, maybe I shouldn't abbreviate in this case :eek:, I'm not using Valentines Day as a way of telling my girlfriend that she's important to me. I do that in many other ways. This day, like many others for many other reasons, is just a nice little focal point when I can make her dinner, get her a little gift to put a smile on her face and then go upstairs for some fun :D It probably won't be any more memorable than any other time that I do it......but it gives me one more reason to spoil her :)
 
I think this pressure is far larger in your mind then it is in reality, apart from a few things in a shop windows I don't have anyone telling me the merits of splashing out.



Valentines day "pressure" compared to the systematic billion pound advertising campaigns seen on TV every day is nothing.

It's obvious we see things quite differently. Maybe we should have a poll to see how many guys wouldn't bother buying stuff for their loved one but feel they have to because they would get earache for not showing their affection with gifts. I think you'd be the one who'd be surprised :)

As for TV advertising, I can honestly say that, at 42 years old, I have never bought anything as a direct result of seeing it advertised on TV. It may have helped me choose between similar products when I've been specifically looking for something but I haven't bought anything I wasn't intending on buying anyway because of it.

I have, in the past, felt extreme pressure to buy stuff for my ex missus for Valentine's day for the very reason given above. Adverts, I can handle, guilt trips (and withdrawl of conjugal rights), I can't :(
 
It's not me who concentrates on the commercial aspect of these events. You very rarely hear anything of the original intent of them. The only bit you see is the bit that's important to people - which is, sadly, the money bit.

As I said before, I'm an atheist so the original meaning of these events holds no interest for me (I mean Christmas, Easter and St. Valentine's day). I have no reason to celebrate these days and, apart from the gift aspect......

As stated I'm not Christian so you could try celebrating like I do:

Christmas - Something to lift you spirit and look forward to in the dark and cold days of winter, eating nice food and drink and spending quality time with people you don't usually get a chance to.
Easter - The start of spring, the rebirth of the wonder that is nature, go for a walk and look at it....it really is amazing.
Valentines - A celebration and appreciation of the person who brings romance and passion into your life!

Not a whiff of commercial about it.....
 
None of these repsonses suprise my, i should imagine a high percentage of you are nerds. :D
Valentines day is their cryptonite.

Talking from experience then aren't you?

I don't understand why it's the men trying to please the women?
You hardly see it go the other way.
I never do Valentines day.

It's cheap, tacky, hundreds of millions of people are doing it, it's NOT a surprise and if anything it'll expect, and blown out of proportion.

I've said it before, it's an insult to me if someone pulled that on me.
I do let the ladies know this before any sort of relationship ofcourse ;)

In return they will get proper surprises, not when they expect them, it makes it so much more worthwhile and real.

Some of you guys work so hard just to get a leg over, and that's all she can repay you with, opening her legs. I'm not embarassed to say that's what my ex did most of the time, not with her anymore thankfully, it really disrespected me a whole lot and I can't stand people(girls) like that.

However, if one day my "partner" turned around and surprised me on this day, I would go with it.
 
It's obvious we see things quite differently. Maybe we should have a poll to see how many guys wouldn't bother buying stuff for their loved one but feel they have to because they would get earache for not showing their affection with gifts. I think you'd be the one who'd be surprised :)(

I would undoubtably loose in the poll and it wouldn't surprise me at all because I know how many people have lost sight of what matters (especially young women).

But would it rock my faith in what I do as an individual on Valentines.....not a chance.
 
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It's obvious we see things quite differently. Maybe we should have a poll to see how many guys wouldn't bother buying stuff for their loved one but feel they have to because they would get earache for not showing their affection with gifts. I think you'd be the one who'd be surprised :)
Well the fault then clearly lies with the materialistic gf's that demand money be spent on them to prove their love. My gf would hate me buying her gifts for valentines, and it is things like that which assures me she is the woman for me.

My opinions of valentines day are perfectly explained by mookjong, you can leave or take the commercialism as much as you want, the day can still hold its true meaning if you want it too. All i did for VD is send my gf an electronic valentines card with a few messages inside, as she is travelling at the moment - no commercialism involved.
 
I don't really understand the mentality of half the people on here, if you don't believe in it then don't do anything about it, but why do you find the need to moan and complain about other people wanting to go for a nice meal or something equally nice?

It really isn't that difficult to spend a couple of quid on a card and flowers, on a day that a lot of women like to be spoiled as it's a tradition really.
 
I don't really understand the mentality of half the people on here, if you don't believe in it then don't do anything about it, but why do you find the need to moan and complain about other people wanting to go for a nice meal or something equally nice?

I ain't moaning about it I'm pitying the poor fools for the day after Valentines when they get to a cash point and realise they've just cleared out their account by buying a gift, going to a fancy restraunt and paying for a meal and drinks which would be a hell of a lot cheaper if they hadn't bought the gift and gone to said Fancy restraunt on Valentines day and done both say a week later when they'd probably be half the price.
 
Talking from experience then aren't you?

I don't understand why it's the men trying to please the women?
You hardly see it go the other way.
I never do Valentines day.

It's cheap, tacky, hundreds of millions of people are doing it, it's NOT a surprise and if anything it'll expect, and blown out of proportion.

I've said it before, it's an insult to me if someone pulled that on me.
I do let the ladies know this before any sort of relationship ofcourse ;)

In return they will get proper surprises, not when they expect them, it makes it so much more worthwhile and real.

Some of you guys work so hard just to get a leg over, and that's all she can repay you with, opening her legs. I'm not embarassed to say that's what my ex did most of the time, not with her anymore thankfully, it really disrespected me a whole lot and I can't stand people(girls) like that.

However, if one day my "partner" turned around and surprised me on this day, I would go with it.


Well said dude. Thankfully my new girlfriend is really cool and doesn’t give a **** about this lame day. We do things all the time and surprise each other as and when we can; not when the fat cats tell us too. I really have to agree thou it does seem more of a thing for women thou. I can say I have never seen or heard of a bloke getting a massive surprise or presents that were better then the womens. Would be interesting to hear thou if there are any women out there and do something for the blokes instead, not lame stuff or default opening legs (if any girls do something different your great btw girls and a rare find.)
 
I ain't moaning about it I'm pitying the poor fools for the day after Valentines when they get to a cash point and realise they've just cleared out their account by buying a gift, going to a fancy restraunt and paying for a meal and drinks which would be a hell of a lot cheaper if they hadn't bought the gift and gone to said Fancy restraunt on Valentines day and done both say a week later when they'd probably be half the price.

Any those of us who celebrate valentines day in a non commercialised way get the best of both worlds ;)
 
Valentines Day. It's been quite eventfull, as I've done absoloutley nothing. I got one text from a mate at like 1am saying Happy Valentines. No-one else has botherd :(

Go out tomorrow night with the rest of us sad losers and pull some women who are annoyed with their boyfriends for not getting them anything, or laugh at the scary psycho "I hate men" types for same reason. ;)
 
Talking from experience then aren't you?

I don't understand why it's the men trying to please the women?
You hardly see it go the other way.

Well you obviously aren't are you.
In my experience women are Great on Valentines day, Getting little trinkets for there men, cards ballons teddys all sorts, Then there is the evening when they get all Loved up, I think it's great.
I've had emails, messages on line, Texts, cards & i have a meal on it's way round tonight.
You can ba Humbug all you like over in that corner whilst i get Romantic in this corner with the women :cool:
 
My missus is doing me a nice steak for tea and I took her to see Billy Elliot in the west end with a nice 4* hotel in Park Lane on Saturday night. Looking forward to some naughtiness tonight :D
 
I don't really understand the mentality of half the people on here, if you don't believe in it then don't do anything about it, but why do you find the need to moan and complain about other people wanting to go for a nice meal or something equally nice?

It really isn't that difficult to spend a couple of quid on a card and flowers, on a day that a lot of women like to be spoiled as it's a tradition really.

As with most "traditions" which involve Joe and Josephine Public parting with their hard earned cash, it only became a "tradition" to buy cards, flowers, jewellery etc when some enterprising chappie thought, "Hang on a minute, I could make a few bob out of this."

Also, I reserve the right to have a moan about anything I please. I am a great believer in free speech and I will exercise that right (it's about the only exercise I ever get :p) as and when it suits me. Equally, you have the right to question my arguments and to freely voice your opinions - which you have done.

malc30 said:
Well you obviously aren't are you.
In my experience women are Great on Valentines day, Getting little trinkets for there men, cards ballons teddys all sorts, Then there is the evening when they get all Loved up, I think it's great.
I've had emails, messages on line, Texts, cards & i have a meal on it's way round tonight.
You can ba Humbug all you like over in that corner whilst i get Romantic in this corner with the women :cool:

You know me Malc, live and let live is my motto. Maybe 12 years as a single bloke has made me a bit more cynical but my views on Valentine's are pretty much in line with my views on Christmas, Easter etc., so I don't think bitterness is a factor. It's not the concept of Valentine's day I have a problem with (I'm all for a bit of loving), it's the perceived necessity to spend money to show one's affection and the cynical exploitation of this by card makers and florists and the likes that riles me.

Anyway, I hope you enjoy your meal and your night of looooooooooove with your lady friend :D
 
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