Weak demand leads Apple to halve iPhone 5 component orders

I can watch YouTube fine, it's the YouTube threads on here that do it as the vids are embedded, if I watch a few vids both just crash. Wonder if it could be something to do with my broadband or something if it doesn't happen to anyone else.
 
I do and that is fine if YouTube is linked but it used to use the app when videos were embedded, It would seem this shouldn't be an issue! But for some reason it is on my devices. Robbo put me on the apple track and I was just asking him to give it a try instead of opening a different thread about it all. As for the actual topic of the thread, Apple ain't going any where, all they have to do is steal the widget idea on iOS 7 and give the UI a update and the general public will lap it up, people seem to forget they are on a computer over clocking based forum and as such most like to tinker, so the view here is very one sided to the platform that let's you mess about with it out of the box.
 
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There seem to be a lot of claims that Apple have stopped innovating. Having played around with a lot of smartphones recently, I honestly believe that there is not much in it between all of them. I'm really struggling to see what the next great innovation is likely to be? I just don't see anything on the horizon from anyone that's game changing? The one thing I would like to see is a big bump in battery life, but I'm not sure the technology is there yet.
 
Battery related innovation won't come directly from the likes of Samsung/Apple, unfortunately everything else is evolving and batteries are stuck in the past at the moment.
 
JonB said:
Of the two devices we've been talking about (iPad / iPhone), which of those *isn't* an awesome product? When was the last time Samsung/Nokia/Microsoft released a product which caused a paradigm shift in computing? Something that has totally changed your day-to-day computing habits, because this is what we're talking about. Apple released two of them in the past 6 years.

I know which company fills me with the most confidence in the innovation department. Sure, they may never actually release anything as revolutionary again, but I wouldn't mind. As long as they continue to iterate on what they have, year-on-year, I'll be happy. It's not about the hardware anyway, it's all about the software it can run.
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Hit the nail on the head here...
 
theheyes said:
Really? "It's not about the hardware, it's all about the software."

The cornerstone of Apple's success in innovation is blending both, and software is not Apple's strong point to be honest.
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Not meant to be taken literally. Melding the two is of course where there success has been, and always will be. However it will be very difficult do differentiate yourself from the rest of the market with only hardware alone. Hardware gets commoditised easily, look at the cheap pc laptop market, they're all essentially the same inside, with the same performance.

Its about what is actually running on that hardware, as hardware alone cannot do anything.

As for software not being one of Apples sen points, not really sure how you can say that when they run two of the biggest operating systems in the world.
 
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JonB said:
It's funny because that talks nothing about market share, thats sales. Between two different, non comparable quarters.

Sales are actually up 25.9 percent year over year, for the same comparable quarter.

This is what irks people in this sub-forum off, you come in, quoting ridiculous numbers that don't actually relate to anything you're trying to say; It's just emotive statement after emotive statement.
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And you've been quoting opinion pieces as counter argument - neither of us know the actual situation and won't till the reports come out. Like I said, we could throw web links and the like around till the cows come home. You can be 'irked' all you like but I've been attempting to state an objective view on the subject but you seem hell bent on painting Apple as the messiah of mobile devices. With all due respect, declining sales often relate directly to market share as well as market saturation.

The best bit about the article you linked to though, that's not even talking about the iPhone. It's talking about the iPad. How can you compare 'tablet share decline' for Apple to smartphone share increase for Android?
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I wasn't, I was talking about all things not being rosy at Apple.

Of the two devices we've been talking about (iPad / iPhone), which of those *isn't* an awesome product? When was the last time Samsung/Nokia/Microsoft released a product which caused a paradigm shift in computing? Something that has totally changed your day-to-day computing habits, because this is what we're talking about. Apple released two of them in the past 6 years.

I know which company fills me with the most confidence in the innovation department. Sure, they may never actually release anything as revolutionary again, but I wouldn't mind. As long as they continue to iterate on what they have, year-on-year, I'll be happy. It's not about the hardware anyway, it's all about the software it can run.
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At what point did I ever say they they were bad devices? What I said was that their competitors devices are better. It's a subjective observation that I'm entitled to. I have repeatedly stated that the devices are beautiful, that IOS is brilliant and that they created the markets. What I have also said is that they have neglected to keep innovating within the market that they've created and subsequently had their competitors make better devices. Yes they made two amazing market revolutionizing devices but they have sat on their chuffs, litigated the hell out of their competitors and still been overtaken by them. Your 'being happy' is a purely subjective and 'emotive' statement that has zero reflection on their actual innovation or the actual quality and capability of the devices. If they don't create another amazing device then they will be relegated to their previous state of an alternative niche desktop and mobile device maker. You might be happy but investors and the general public will want to move to greener pastures. There is a point where people want something new and different when they buy a new device, take it home, and unwrap it. 6 years of unwrapping the same devices (however beautiful and however clever they are) won't cut it.

So two sensible firings is a sure fire reason for consumer and shareholder confidence to be down... Let me see... like for like sales are up massively on 2011. Consumers seem pretty confident in Apple to me.
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So the firing of the Maps guy was all about the internal politics and nothing to do with releasing a hugely embarrassing app that knocked a great deal of gloss of their 'amazing magical' product? I think you only see what you want to see. I'm happy to sit tight and watch what happens. Like I said, I have zero investment in them, emotional or otherwise, so I couldn't give a damn but I do have an interest from a purely market speculation perspective and I personally see them due for a fall unless they produce an innovative product again. That's my observation and my opinion - you're welcome to take it or leave it. It doesn't bother me either way. If Apple creates a product that meets a desire for me and it is better than the competition, I'll buy it. Right now they don't, so I won't buy anything of theirs. The only Apple device I use now is my iPod Classic which I use alongside Media Monkey, because again, it does a better job than iTunes in my opinion.

Lets sit tight and come back to this when the actual company reports come out and then revisit with actual facts because all this quoting of articles serves no end. Again I'm only interested in their company for an external perspective because the market sectors that they created have subsequently been populated by other companies and don't appear to be attempting to stay competitive. Apple needs to do that again otherwise they will be 'just another desktop and mobile device company' among many. 'In My Opinion'.
 
uniQ said:
Apple just posted best Quarterly Results Ever. Net quarterly profit of $13.1 billion.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1530732

Quarterly iPhone unit sales reached 47.8 million, compared to 37 million in the year-ago quarter. Must be all that weak demand, Apple are doomed!
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Apple is tanking pre-market (down 4.90% and counting). Expectations for iPhone sales were 55m+ - a 'miss'.
 
Down 9.8% now, of course volumes are a lot lower after market so it's only an indicator of where it will open tomorrow, but it's safe to say it will be down.
 
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