*** Weekend Football - 14th / 15th ***

No it wasn't. They were nearly at full strength.

Yes i know i was being cheeky with my reply;)

God DM just shut up for once will you??..you just totally nit pick an entire game all the time....Brazil completely and utterly outclassed England...Kaka was his usual sublime self with some very nice nifty passes...just lucky for England that they didnt finish very well or else this game would and could have been 4 or 5 nil.

Anyhow hoping that the Irish do the French over:).
 
Oh noes! We are terrible, we should never have gotten into the WC, none of our players can even kick a ball. They should all be sacked and killed by fire. Including the physio, coach's and manager! Get rid of the lot of them, they are a disgrace!

PS: If you can't spot the sarcasm, you are obviously the lovechild of Drunkenmaster.
 
I thought Milner did fine. Barry suffers from the jack of all trades, master of none problem. Bent was pointless really, you can argue that he got no service but he made no attempt to go and find the ball. In a game like that you can't have a striker just sitting up top waiting for the ball to come to him. Luis Fabiano, Rooney and Nilmar all moved around trying to get in the game, Bent didn't.

I'd agree, Bent could have done more but didn't. His game has never really being about going to fetch the ball, he was a poor choice.

England were just out classed in almost every part of the pitch, doesn't mean were awful, just means that Brasil are still a very long way ahead of us at an International level.

I'm waiting for the media to say "we only lost 1-0 to the best team in the world! we are still going to win the world cup" :rolleyes::D:o
 
Yes i know i was being cheeky with my reply;)

God DM just shut up for once will you??..you just totally nit pick an entire game all the time....Brazil completely and utterly outclassed England...Kaka was his usual sublime self with some very nice nifty passes...just lucky for England that they didnt finish very well or else this game would and could have been 4 or 5 nil.

Anyhow hoping that the Irish do the French over:).

Yes better to do the normal, "we were totally outclassed" and leave it at that. Thats clearly how people improve, just accept you were worse, don't even think about why, don't consider how you can be better, just end the discussion right there.

OUr biggest management problem for the past well, 10 years, is fans reacting like you do, and the managers aswell. All these games we talk about being good to learn from, we never do. SWP has played in enough games for every single person involved to realise how completely useless he is, yet we're still calling him up, thats not going to help us win the game. Working out where we went wrong and doing something about it is how to improve. Glossing over the defeat with a pointless inane remark and not doing a single thing differently next time around gets us, another pointless exit in a cup without looking remotely competitive to the top teams.

I thought Milner did fine. Barry suffers from the jack of all trades, master of none problem. Bent was pointless really, you can argue that he got no service but he made no attempt to go and find the ball. In a game like that you can't have a striker just sitting up top waiting for the ball to come to him. Luis Fabiano, Rooney and Nilmar all moved around trying to get in the game, Bent didn't.

Englands game is to try and play someone in behind, with Rooney upfront, or Defoe, Bent played as he was told to. Capello was screaming instructions to everyone the entire 90 minutes, yet didn't tell Bent to drop deep. Brazil play intricate passing, Fabiano is fantastic at that, and Fabiano got plenty of the ball all over. bent didn't get passes, the ball, his game isn't to get on the ball and play others in and he wasn't being told to do so.

As for Barry being jack of all trades, not really, he's not very good defensively, he's decent getting fowards when theres cover for him in Lampard who has the dicipline to cover for our other players who don't get back well. Barry's game is getting foward, he was played defensively today, he was poor. I can't see how people can say he did nothing wrong, in a game that Fabiano dropped into the space Barry should have been at will to get the ball under no pressure, and the rest of the team walked through Barry like he wasn't there. What was it Barry did so well that made him ok in this game?
 
Ref in the Spain v Argentina is an amateur. Mascherano has made some quality tackles and getting penalised for nothing. Football is becoming a no contact sport I sometimes think. :(:confused:

Edit- van Persie apparently injured.
 
I'm hearing RvP has torn his ankle ligaments, maybe 2-3 months :(

At the moment its a suspected torn ligament, but they won't do the scans to check till tomorrow.

Arsenal have strikers, but this is why I've been so incensed lately. Fergie will rest Rooney, Chelsea rest Drogba, Torres gets rested, RVP, yet again after the longest run of games he's had, against a crap team started and played the full 90mins. Wenger made a point of saying he won't rotate the centrebacks, which is all well and good, till like last year Gallas got injured due to overtraining/no rest, and our season fell apart completely, because he was injured and because the replacements with little rotation, had little form/practice/match fitness.

LIkewise, tbh, Bendtner was only just back from injury, played a long Cup game for just getting back and was started in the next game, picked up an instant groin injury. We change players around after injuries constantly, but we never seem to rotate players to prevent injuries.

Is Vela alive at the moment? Despite playing superbly when he does play, he then gets dropped for 10 games, Eduardo's had no time in his best position. I can't remember what Theo's injury situation is again.

I would assume Eduardo will take up position as the main striker for now, with Arshavin capable of playing there aswell.
 
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How the **** is RVP tearing his ankle ligaments (suspected) Wenger's fault. It's a freak injury afaik, nothing to do with fatigue or anything like that. Jesus DM you really do let your blind hatred of Wenger make you look foolish at times!
 
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