Weekend Football Thread *spoilers be inside*

Chelsea will win the league, not too much shame in losing to them today. Arsenal were better in midfield but every time a half chance came along Eduardo was shut out, I have a feeling that RvP would have made more out of Eduardo's chances but it's pointless thinking that now. Think the disallowed goal was a little harsh too, seemed as though it was a 50/50.

Don't think Chelsea merited a 3 - 0 scoreline, but they worked hard and defended aggressively

Had Arsenal been a bit sharper today it could have been different, it's not as though Chelsea were that good apart from when they defended, when they had the ball they struggled to string more than 3 or 4 passes together. I don't think there's a massive gap between the teams, just a bit
 
I'd disagree. Regardless of your possession, chelsea stopped all of your attacks when they could potentially pose a threat on goal. Almost mocking your play style.

You stopped the attacks by flooding the box. It's nothing special about Chelsea - you've played very boring football this season, today is the most rise I've seen from you - Arsenal have had the same problem against any team that's done the same. Arsenal lack the finisher, and that's evident today. In terms of play - especially in the second half - Arsenal were the stronger team. The only difference is, that you had the likes of Drogba who can smack the ball in from outside the box whereas Arsenal were left with our midfielders and the technical strikers. Arshavin is usually one for managing such strikes, but up against the average size of Chelsea's players, he was completely overwhelmed. Denilson can be a great player, but you could see that up against the size of Drogba, he was struggling.

A disallowed goal, an own-goal, a 'missed' penalty, a cheeky strike outside the box... and you're telling me that luck wasn't on Chelsea's side today? Right...
 
Striking aside, play for play, Arsenal have matched Chelsea and then some. The difference is, Arsenal had some back luck, and Chelsea managed to take their chances.

Things went Chelsea's way today, but the season is far from over for Arsenal.

Not quite, Chelsea were quite happy to concede possession as they knew they could sit in the final third and stop anything Arsenal threw at them.
The Gunners were entirely toothless upfront and completely ineffective against a team that had the better of them right across the pitch.
 
Not quite, Chelsea were quite happy to concede possession as they knew they could sit in the final third and stop anything Arsenal threw at them.
The Gunners were entirely toothless upfront and completely ineffective against a team that had the better of them right across the pitch.

Chelsea's defence stopped dead Arsenal's strikers, yes. See above. There's nothing special in what Chelsea did.

Chelsea did not have the better over Arsenal's midfield despite what you think. Arsenal's midfield held possession and had Chelsea on the back-foot for the majority of the second half. Why do Chelsea feel the need to 'concede possession' when they're 2-0 up? Most teams will be charging for the third straight away.
 
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Because winning the league is over 38 games. It's not based on one or two poor displays.

11 points behind, lost 4 of 5 against the top half of the table, thats not winning form, not even close to it. The reason people thought we could win is we were doing well having played 2 in the top half, and around 7 in the bottom at that stage, and thrashing the pants off them.


So thats Chelsea, same goals scored as us, harder teams played, more bottom half games left than we have, 11 points ahead(8 IF we win the game in hand), it will take a pretty bad month with Drogba, Mikel, Essien all away for the ACN for them to let us back in it, a slightly less big drop off to let Utd back in it.


Sagna, as per usual for the past season, has been awful, no where, no effort, awful delivery(one game recently with a couple crosses doesn't make him good), no intention to run the overlap, doesn't seem to have the pace he had pre-injury, marking has gone to crap, is just completely useless.

Song was awful, as was Denilson, Fabregas near the end was all of 10 yards away, stupidly easy pass to make and Denilson missed him by 5 yards, you saw all the fight drain out of him that second on(about 5 mins to go), he barely moved after and fouled a bunch. 4-3-3 doesn't work, without question. You can still get a result against crap teams, as we have done, but we rarely stay in a 4-3-3 when we're over running the other side, in a hard game our 4-3-3 is terrible.

I'm not entirely sure Arshavin was all over the place for the first 5 mins of the second half which made me think we'd gone 4-4-2, but he returned to left wing after that and we made nothing from then on. I think their first chance scared Wenger into switching back to a 4-3-3(4-5-1 really).


Vela and Eddie, both have barely played at all, in really two years. Vela got nothing at all last year, not a sniff at first team, he looked great pre-season and the first few games because he'd been first team for 3 years in Spain and Mexico, now he looks like a guy whose not played in 2 years. Eduardo the same well, even worse he barely played his first 6 months, played a few games, broke his leg, barely played for a year, got 3 games, barely played since then either.

Today we had what, Rosicky, Nasri, Eduardo, Vela, Theo, Denilson who have barely touched a ball so far this season all playing, and you wonder why when it came to the crucial final pass there was little to no understanding between them.

THis is what winds me up, we make changes when forced though injury, we don't rotate, Vela and Eduardo should have been playing against the Blackburns and Hulls and getting some form while giving Fabregas and RVP a rest. Instead we overplay the first team, wait for injurys and play cold players under extreme pressure and expect them to perform. No other top manager is that stupid, Fergie uses his whole squad and constantly rests a single player here and there.

No, I don't really think we're good enough to win this game no matter the squad we put out, but Eboue, fit, limitless energy would have helped, as would Gibbs if we hadn't wasted him midweek, Fabregas may have been fresher if we rested him midweek(and against Wolves), same goes for Arshavin. Ramsey is simply better than Song and Denilson, both offensively and defensively. A 4-4-2, with Eboue, Gibbs, Ramsey and maybe even Wilshire would have done better than we did today.

Theo on the wing, horrible, just horrible, he can't run with the ball, he can't pass, dribble or cross, he can shoot, thats it, he's a striker, yet another entirely pointless outting on the wing.
 
Chelsea's defence stopped dead Arsenal's strikers, yes. See above. There's nothing special in what Chelsea did.

Chelsea did not have the better over Arsenal's midfield despite what you think. Arsenal's midfield held possession and had Chelsea on the back-foot for the majority of the second half. Why do Chelsea feel the need to 'concede possession' when they're 2-0 up? Most teams will be charging for the third straight away.

Because Chelsea's game for some time has been making the best use of counter attacks, which is easier when the other team is pushed high up the field. You don't have to dominate posession to be the better team, a great team knows this and doesn't waste energy and time winning the ball back where they don't care you have it.

I don't think they are happy to concede possession, I just think they are happy to wait for you to gift it to them, rather than run around midfield at full pace wasting energy. When you do that you also leave gaps behind you to run into. Tempting the other team forward into a very well organised defence is easier, takes less effort and leaves them vunerable to the counter attack when they do lose the ball.

Theres no advantage to winning the ball in midfield than deep in their own half, none, even more so when the other team is as toothless as we were today.
 
It was like watching men playing boys at times, yeh sure we had plenty of posession in the first half and parts of the 2nd but chelsea rarely looked in danger of being taken over.

Can anyone honestly say it would have been a difference result had RvP played??? i always got the feeling Chelsea never got out of 3rd gear today so even had we gone ahead early i think they still would have got the result they wanted ...just like Utd did earlier in the season.

For all the days when we look amazing we're still too easy to push over at times against the top teams, and even Sunderland showed that vulnerability.

Because of the personnel we only have one way of playing and that is too naive against the likes of Chelsea.

For all the talk about title chances being blown, they were never there in reality and i don't think this game has pushed this team back at all ....i don't think it makes any difference tbh. We'll still win a lot of games and be up there amongst the top few teams - it just reinforces the gap Utd/Chelsea have had over us now consistently.
 
You stopped the attacks by flooding the box. It's nothing special about Chelsea - you've played very boring football this season, today is the most rise I've seen from you - Arsenal have had the same problem against any team that's done the same. Arsenal lack the finisher, and that's evident today. In terms of play - especially in the second half - Arsenal were the stronger team. The only difference is, that you had the likes of Drogba who can smack the ball in from outside the box whereas Arsenal were left with our midfielders and the technical strikers. Arshavin is usually one for managing such strikes, but up against the average size of Chelsea's players, he was completely overwhelmed. Denilson can be a great player, but you could see that up against the size of Drogba, he was struggling.

A disallowed goal, an own-goal, a 'missed' penalty, a cheeky strike outside the box... and you're telling me that luck wasn't on Chelsea's side today? Right...

Well we (Chelsea) had a blatant penalty turned down so I guess it wasn't all luck.
 
Very happy with the result which was imo fully deserved. Defended excellently and drogba and anelka both play very well as per usual.

Midfield did well too, really highlighted the lack of strength in arsenal's. Possession wasn't at all as one-sided as some people seem to think - 51% to 49%.

Think the possibility of fabregas leaving the prem this summer is increasing with every day.
 
Nix, which match were you watching?

The same one as the rest of you. Stop asking stupid questions.

Well we (Chelsea) had a blatant penalty turned down so I guess it wasn't all luck.

Agreed. I'm not singing from the rooftops that Chelsea didn't deserve the win, am I? You're in top spot for a reason. What I'm saying though, when all is taken into account - things went a little more Chelsea's way than Arsenals - that's why the score is 0-3 and not 1-2 or 1-1 which was a fairer reflection of the play.
 
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What the hell was with Arsenal this afternoon?

First 15 minutes of the game they were playing like the Arsenal of this season. They were dominating, in control, and making good decisions.

Then after that they started playing there worst football I've seen in a while.. Honestly I cannot count the amount of times the ball was given away or mistakes were made.

They made no attempts to actually have a go and shoot when chances came up, and quite a few of them chances came up! But nothing came from them.. just stupid back passes and which ended up giving the ball away time and time again. Just felt like the whole team was panicky with the 2 goals in the first half.

So disappointing to lose like this when it seemed we were making a good change.
 
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