What defines a fast car in 2020?

WJA96 said:
LJK Setright always said a fast car was one that would go from 60-100 as fast as it would go from 0-60 and in a refined car you wouldn’t have to turn the stereo up while it did it.
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I think my S60 was the only car I've had which could pull that off. I do miss having a vehicle that presses you into your seat a little. :p
 
OP drank too much eggnog.

My Daytona is fast, my 330d is quick. On the road, it's largely pointless - both are very capable of getting me into trouble far too quickly.
 
Acme said:
It was close
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No it wasn't. As stated by others above it takes serious performance to do 60-100 in the same time as 0-60. Your own uncalibrated YouTube video calculation misses it by at least 1.5 seconds which is a huge gap in this context.
 
Another vote for 60-100 time, or 50-70, being the criteria to judge a fast car by, or,
lets add the weight/handling into the recipe, speed it could take a dry 50m radius bend
 
Fact of the matter is that anything with 250-300BHP will be fast for 99% of the world. Youtube makes the world appear a lot smaller than it really is. My battered old Saab 9-5 with close to 300 BHP is still faster than the large majority of what is on the road now.

Most of the stuff on the road today is barely above 150BHP. For me anyway I have gotten to that age where fun to drive trumps "top speed". Being able to ring the neck off something like a 205Gti is more fun than motorway sprints in a BMW M5 using about 2/10ths of its potential.
 
adam cool dude said:
Fact of the matter is that anything with 250-300BHP will be fast for 99% of the world. Youtube makes the world appear a lot smaller than it really is. My battered old Saab 9-5 with close to 300 BHP is still faster than the large majority of what is on the road now.

Most of the stuff on the road today is barely above 150BHP. For me anyway I have gotten to that age where fun to drive trumps "top speed". Being able to ring the neck off something like a 205Gti is more fun than motorway sprints in a BMW M5 using about 2/10ths of its potential.
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Yeah my mx5 isn't fast in a straight line but is incredibly fast in the twisties and has shaken off many cars that would blow it away on paper.

Plus it's so satisfying to drive a car hard for longer than a few seconds.
 
Most cars are NOT doing 0-60 in around 4 sec. More like double that. 4 sec is something really quick :D

But good luck putting all of the power down in something fast on our crappy roads. You won't get cars to move that quickly without some good tarmac. Which is what those times are achieved on.
 
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bainbridge said:
...but is incredibly fast in the twisties...
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I thought I was back on Scoobynet there for a moment with a comment like that. A blast from the past :D

Nasher said:
Most cars are NOT doing 0-60 in around 4 sec. More like double that. 4 sec is something really quick :D

But good luck putting all of the power down ...
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Anything sub 4 secs is serious machinery, I’d go beyond really quick and straight on to ‘really fast’ in my vocabulary.

Indeed, getting that performance onto the road is something else entirely. That’s why much of this stat stuff is a little silly. If a car can only perform in a vacuum, should that really be the published figures?
 
Nasher said:
Most cars are NOT doing 0-60 in around 4 sec. More like double that. 4 sec is something really quick :D

But good luck putting all of the power down in something fast on our crappy roads. You won't get cars to move that quickly without some good tarmac. Which is what those times are achieved on.
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I’m quite confident that my car can repeatedly do sub 4secs 0-60s on an average UK road. Finding a road that you can do it repeatedly without getting into trouble is another thing altogether
 
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