What even is American Grade 1 Maths?

BallistixOnZ490 · 18 Jul 2021 at 14:10

tbyeah said:
There's two people, one of which is me, saying that the method is indeed used. You are winding yourself up about wording. I'm not sure what problem you are referring to regardless, literacy and numeracy is slowly improving over time in the UK and this trend has been consistent for years. It's slow but it's not because of 5 year olds struggling with this addition method

Not sure how wokeness ties into basic numeracy either

No actually, most employers today are saying that kids leaving schools are lacking literacy and numeracy skills.

All that what you said shows is that the pass requirements have declined to idiot levels.

Tefal · 18 Jul 2021 at 14:12

Literally everyone in this thread does the same thing, so that's a sure sign it isn't pseudo maths.

Making an 8 to a 10 is what you call rounding. That is pretty much a fact. The only thing is you seem to lack braincells to understand the part where you also add or subtract the difference that you rounded to after.

Oh no I know what you're doing it's much more advanced your rearranging and balancing the equation like you where taught for algebra.

You're turning it into a

9+8 = 20-3

That's great and yes it's how most adults think, not useful before you know an equation is two sided and that if you add a new number to one side you deduct it from the other

BallistixOnZ490 · 18 Jul 2021 at 14:13

Tefal said:
So an absolute conspiracy theorist nut case who's now "home schooling"

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say creationism not evolution will be taught in that house

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Funny that its been long proven that home schooled kids in America usually end up doing much better than the state funded education over there.

You know that all the Americans that can't even spot any single country on a map or don't know what religion Buddhist monks are all went to normal schools right?

tbyeah · 18 Jul 2021 at 14:14

BallistixOnZ490 said:
No actually, most employers today are saying that kids leaving schools are lacking literacy and numeracy skills.

All that what you said shows is that the pass requirements have declined to idiot levels.

This is primarily due to employers nowadays demanding a more skilled workforce. In absolute terms, numeracy has slowly improved.

Also GSCE Maths is certainly more difficult than it used to be

BallistixOnZ490 · 18 Jul 2021 at 14:14

Tefal said:
That's great and yes it's how most adults think, not useful before you know an equation is two sided and that if you add a new number to one side you deduct it from the other

Then simply teach how to do this instead as I and most people were?

BallistixOnZ490 · 18 Jul 2021 at 14:15

tbyeah said:
Also GSCE Maths is certainly more difficult than it used to be

Nope, don't believe you one bit.

Becoming a teacher in both the UK and US, as well as most countries is basically 'I failed to become what I wanted so now I simply teach instead' anyway.

tbyeah · 18 Jul 2021 at 14:16

BallistixOnZ490 said:
Nope, don't believe you one bit.

If you want you can look at the content specification, some of the recently introduced content covers fairly advanced vectors and even touches on basic calculus with integration and differentiation. It's objectively harder

E: not to mention mathematical proof and iteration! https://lewisham.gov.uk/-/media/files/imported/maths-gcse-higher-syllabus.ashx

Kenai · 18 Jul 2021 at 14:18

GCSE maths used to be an absolute joke, at our school we didn't even do it across the 2 GCSE years, we did GCSE statistics in year 10 and then GCSE maths in year 11. It can't have got much easier

BallistixOnZ490 · 18 Jul 2021 at 14:19

tbyeah said:
If you want you can look at the content specification, some of the recently introduced content covers fairly advanced vectors and even touches on basic calculus with integration and differentiation. It's objectively harder

E: not to mention mathematical proof and iteration!

And I still bet none of those kids know how to, or could grasp coding.

tbyeah · 18 Jul 2021 at 14:20

BallistixOnZ490 said:
And I still bet none of those kids know how to, or could grasp coding.

How is this relevant to whether the GCSE has become harder?

BallistixOnZ490 · 18 Jul 2021 at 14:21

Kenai said:
GCSE maths used to be an absolute joke, at our school we didn't even do it across the 2 GCSE years, we did GCSE statistics in year 10 and then GCSE maths in year 11. It can't have got much easier

Oh Im not saying GSCE maths is hard.

Im saying the opposite in fact, that the concept in the OP is so ridiculously simple that teachers are making it far more hard than it needs to be.

Maybe thats why its harder because they now feel the need to overcomplicate simple algebra?

thenewoc · 18 Jul 2021 at 14:21

The question makes no sense what so ever.

I would have put -7 if it wasn't for the addition symbol looking like it was already printed.

tbyeah · 18 Jul 2021 at 14:21

BallistixOnZ490 said:
Nope, don't believe you one bit.

Becoming a teacher in both the UK and US, as well as most countries is basically 'I failed to become what I wanted so now I simply teach instead' anyway.

I think I understand your position now, if you have a general antipathy for teachers then there is no convincing you.

BallistixOnZ490 · 18 Jul 2021 at 14:21

tbyeah said:
How is this relevant to whether the GCSE has become harder?

Its relevant to the fact that kids are not learning the skills they need to find a decent job or progress in the modern world.

dowie · 18 Jul 2021 at 14:22

I guess the aim is to try and teach a specific way of thinking about these problems.

BallistixOnZ490 · 18 Jul 2021 at 14:24

tbyeah said:
I think I understand your position now, if you have a general antipathy for teachers then there is no convincing you.

No actually, teachers and the whole education system in Finland and other Scandinavian countries is great.

All education following the US and UK curriculum based methods have been long obsolete and flawed for several decades now.

I most surely learned nothing all the way up to university that has ever helped me with finding work or making a living, as is the same for the vast majority of of people.

thenewoc · 18 Jul 2021 at 14:24

The poor sod is being penalised by a brain dead leftist education system.

BallistixOnZ490 · 18 Jul 2021 at 14:26

I've seen pictures of a UK I.T test asking kids to list 10 components in a PC.

One kid was marked wrong for putting 'M.2 Nvme SSD' and corrected to 'Floppy drive', which about sums up the entire process of learning based on a set curriculum.

The curriculum and skills being taught in state funded schools never match what is expected for the current time to be able to find employment.

I couldn't even choose to take an I.T or any computer based subject for my GCSEs in 1999.

dowie · 18 Jul 2021 at 14:29

tbyeah said:
Also GSCE Maths is certainly more difficult than it used to be

Compared to when?

I remember doing an A-level maths exam a year early when I was sitting my GCSE's (top set maths had already finished the GCSE syllabus the year before) - we used an old O-level textbook for it.

The teacher basically pointed out that though we were a year ahead by (the then) current standards we were actually just learning maths at a regular pace as far as the old O-levels our parents would have done were concerned.

BallistixOnZ490 · 18 Jul 2021 at 14:31

O Levels were already far harder than GCSEs, which were actually dumbed down because too many girls used to fail them.

Rinse and repeat since the introduction of GCSEs, they were continuously dumbed down to allow more demographics of underperforming kids to pass.

This is a fact that most people are aware of. The absolute tosh in the OP and actual teachers defending it is clearly evident of this.

'Kids are too dumb to learn algebra so we have to teach them all this airy fairy making 10 with counting beans pseudo nonsense that most normal people will never understand, and no actual person will ever ask about in any real world scenario'.