What even is American Grade 1 Maths?

[BallistixOnZ490]

Exactly. The alternative is we only teach number bonds and then everyone is dead chuffed their kid can recite times table but has no idea what the method is or why the answer is what it is.

Except this actually works?

The methods are taught when teaching those things, or are you meaning to blame teachers that don't bother to also teach the methods alongside typical calculations?

Kids would easily understand such concepts if you actually bother to teach the methods, don't blame bad / lazy teachers which happens as the norm as being a case of kids being too dumb to understand.

 

[BallistixOnZ490]

. But if 'dad' can't comprehend and count at his age to help his kid learn - all is lost.
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Thats not the issue here though is it? Most adults cannot understand that question, nor the ultra woke 'Making 10 using addends' BS explanation on how to do it.

They understand the maths and numbers, not all these stupid methods that are being used to compensate for bad teachers / dumb kids that can't learn the normal way how most of us already did.

Most kids in fact would be able to understand how to do 8+9 mentally by rounding one of the numbers to a 10, then adding or subtracting the difference if they were properly taught the method for doing so. However todays education system needs to be catered around trying to make the dumbest / mentally challenged kids be able to do it, so instead everyone is bought down to that level instead of normal and clever kids being given a chance to learn things properly.

 

[Street]

Most kids in fact would be able to understand how to do 8+9 mentally by rounding one of the numbers to a 10, then adding or subtracting the difference if they were properly taught the method for doing so. However todays education system needs to be catered around trying to make the dumbest / mentally challenged kids be able to do it, so instead everyone is bought down to that level instead of normal and clever kids being given a chance to learn things properly.

My missus just tore your post apart, but I'd get a holiday for writing what she said. She advised you to go read the maths curriculum then come back and comment. Rounding is one of the methods taught, as is tens and ones. It's about teaching a variety of methods as not all children will understand all methods and it gives them all a good base.

 

[BallistixOnZ490]

My missus just tore your post apart, but I'd get a holiday for writing what she said. She advised you to go read the maths curriculum then come back and comment. Rounding is one of the methods taught, as is tens and ones. It's about teaching a variety of methods as not all children will understand all methods and it gives them all a good base.

Like I could care what your missus or any other 'teacher' could think, when its entirely their fault that kids today are unemployable due to their illiteracy and poor numeracy skills. Her 'tearing me apart' obviously shows how poorly her language skills must actually be to be able to explain her point calmly, I really hope this isn't a someone that is also being allowed anywhere near kids!

Of course teachers are going to defend their outdated and proven useless methods despite however much evidence shows that kids are leaving school ill prepared for todays highly competitive job markets.

I've already heard and seen it enough times, most people become teachers as a backup plan after failing to become the next best environmental activist with their geography degree or some such. They are hardly an unbiased source on how amazing they think the education system is.

Everyone today is taught at the lowest levels possible and with declining and easier pass requirements so that everyone has a lovely fair and equal chance of becoming the next doctor. Then we wonder why we end up needing to hire our doctors from other countries instead, like hurr meet durr!

As for your claim that teachers teach 'multiple methods', the question in the OP doesn't look like 'multiple methods' to me, and I wonder who is wrong when neither the kids nor their parents, or most people on multiple internet forums can even understand it?

Never mind, lets just keep blaming it on dumb kids and bad parents, surely its never the teacher's fault for never being able to properly teach such airy fairy woke methods.

I could actually have become a teacher very easily and likely still could. Let that sink in before you continue holding teachers to such a high regard.

 

[Richie]

Like I could care what your missus or any other 'teacher' could think, when its entirely their fault that kids today are unemployable due to their illiteracy and poor numeracy skills. Her 'tearing me apart' obviously shows how poorly her language skills must actually be to be able to explain her point calmly, I really hope this isn't a someone that is also being allowed anywhere near kids!

Of course teachers are going to defend their outdated and proven useless methods despite however much evidence shows that kids are leaving school ill prepared for todays highly competitive job markets.

I've already heard and seen it enough times, most people become teachers as a backup plan after failing to become the next best environmental activist with their geography degree or some such. They are hardly an unbiased source on how amazing they think the education system is.

Everyone today is taught at the lowest levels possible and with declining and easier pass requirements so that everyone has a lovely fair and equal chance of becoming the next doctor. Then we wonder why we end up needing to hire our doctors from other countries instead, like hurr meet durr!

As for your claim that teachers teach 'multiple methods', the question in the OP doesn't look like 'multiple methods' to me, and I wonder who is wrong when neither the kids nor their parents, or most people on multiple internet forums can even understand it?

Never mind, lets just keep blaming it on dumb kids and bad parents, surely its never the teacher's fault for never being able to properly teach such airy fairy woke methods.

I could actually have become a teacher very easily and likely still could. Let that sink in before you continue holding teachers to such a high regard.

Throwing all the "woke this" and "woke that" then watch you get triggered by some random's wife on an Internet forum... I'm sure you'd make a great teacher

 

[Street]

Like I could care what your missus or any other 'teacher' could think, when its entirely their fault that kids today are unemployable due to their illiteracy and poor numeracy skills. Her 'tearing me apart' obviously shows how poorly her language skills must actually be to be able to explain her point calmly, I really hope this isn't a someone that is also being allowed anywhere near kids!

Of course teachers are going to defend their outdated and proven useless methods despite however much evidence shows that kids are leaving school ill prepared for todays highly competitive job markets.

I've already heard and seen it enough times, most people become teachers as a backup plan after failing to become the next best environmental activist with their geography degree or some such. They are hardly an unbiased source on how amazing they think the education system is.

Everyone today is taught at the lowest levels possible and with declining and easier pass requirements so that everyone has a lovely fair and equal chance of becoming the next doctor. Then we wonder why we end up needing to hire our doctors from other countries instead, like hurr meet durr!

As for your claim that teachers teach 'multiple methods', the question in the OP doesn't look like 'multiple methods' to me, and I wonder who is wrong when neither the kids nor their parents, or most people on multiple internet forums can even understand it?

Never mind, lets just keep blaming it on dumb kids and bad parents, surely its never the teacher's fault for never being able to properly teach such airy fairy woke methods.

I could actually have become a teacher very easily and likely still could. Let that sink in before you continue holding teachers to such a high regard.

Funniest thing I've read all day.

 

[adolf hamster]

nor the ultra woke 'Making 10 using addends' BS explanation on how to do it.

just when you thought gd was delivering

Like I could care what your missus or any other 'teacher' could think, when its entirely their fault that kids today are unemployable due to their illiteracy and poor numeracy skills. Her 'tearing me apart' obviously shows how poorly her language skills must actually be to be able to explain her point calmly, I really hope this isn't a someone that is also being allowed anywhere near kids!

Of course teachers are going to defend their outdated and proven useless methods despite however much evidence shows that kids are leaving school ill prepared for todays highly competitive job markets.

I've already heard and seen it enough times, most people become teachers as a backup plan after failing to become the next best environmental activist with their geography degree or some such. They are hardly an unbiased source on how amazing they think the education system is.

Everyone today is taught at the lowest levels possible and with declining and easier pass requirements so that everyone has a lovely fair and equal chance of becoming the next doctor. Then we wonder why we end up needing to hire our doctors from other countries instead, like hurr meet durr!

As for your claim that teachers teach 'multiple methods', the question in the OP doesn't look like 'multiple methods' to me, and I wonder who is wrong when neither the kids nor their parents, or most people on multiple internet forums can even understand it?

Never mind, lets just keep blaming it on dumb kids and bad parents, surely its never the teacher's fault for never being able to properly teach such airy fairy woke methods.

I could actually have become a teacher very easily and likely still could. Let that sink in before you continue holding teachers to such a high regard.

gd delivers......

 

[Deleted User 298457]

Lol being lectured by a NEET

 

[BallistixOnZ490]

Throwing all the "woke this" and "woke that" then watch you get triggered by some random's wife on an Internet forum... I'm sure you'd make a great teacher

There's no such thing as a 'great' teacher, least not in the UK or US. Maybe try understanding the point next time. ANYBODY that passed Uni can become a teacher, and most people would not become teachers if they hadn't failed at becoming whatever they thought they wanted to do with whatever they studied.

Most teachers back when I was at school did nothing but shout and scream at the kids all day long anyway. Maybe that guys wife is also one of those.

Lol being lectured by a NEET

Throwing all the "woke this" and "woke that" then watch you get triggered by some random's wife on an Internet forum... I'm sure you'd make a great teacher

Correction - some random nobody's nobody wife got triggered by the neet.

Also like most people in the UK are currently neets, still unemployed because of that virus I hear. I guess its fine for them but not for me.

'Getting an education will get you a job' - AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, Nope, not for me or most people with all the useless qualifications they throw out at every and any body that simply wants one.

I couldn't even study I.T when I was at school (the school didn't run any I.T / computing courses), and I still don't have any I.T experience, and nope, I can't get it without paying several thousands of £££ for another useless BS course that likely still wont count as enough I.T experience.

Feel free to tell me all about how my German GCSE is helping me to get a job.

 

[Name]

So glad i dont have a child right now. If they brought maths homework home like that i'd tell them "you're on your own pal".Well ok maybe not....but maybe.

 

[tbyeah]

I'm assuming you don't have a degree, so no, you could not become a teacher as it stands. I'm out of here, the baseless assumptions you are making are too broad to even begin to counter.

 

[Deleted User 298457]

Also like most people in the UK are currently neets, still unemployed because of that virus I hear. I guess its fine for them but not for me.

No

 

[Malevolence]

OP is just a wind-up merchant, go and check his previous form. Why do people even bother responding to him?

 

[Deleted User 298457]

OP is just a wind-up merchant, go and check his previous form. Why do people even bother responding to him?

Tbf it's much more entertaining than the usual boomer banter about how great the world used to be. Or the right wingers talking about how non racist we are.

 

[FortuitousFluke]

I prefer a more traditional type of maths problem.

If one belligerent right winger is writing a furious email at an average speed of 20 words per minute, and another belligerent right winger is recording an incandescent YouTube reaction video at roughly 90 db per expletive, how many minutes will pass before they both rupture a blood vessel and attend a&e, to be treated by a nurse who shouldn't be here now that they've won Brexit thank you very much.

 

[BallistixOnZ490]

I'm assuming you don't have a degree, so no, you could not become a teacher as it stands. I'm out of here, the baseless assumptions you are making are too broad to even begin to counter.

Ive literally written a million and one times that ofc I have a degree.

No need to be the first three letters of assuming by doing it needlessly.

I happen to live in the real world as well where not one employer will ever give a crap about your qualifications, mainly because most people with any qualifications are still completely useless at any job.

Every teacher and person that says that an education will improve your chances of getting a job simply have their own heads stuck up their hmmms. You're more likely to get a job by never mentioning your qualifications and never putting more on an application than each job requires.

OP is just a wind-up merchant, go and check his previous form. Why do people even bother responding to him?

So are you and some other 90% of the users on this forum. You love the entertainment I provide, stop trying to deny it.

No

Feel free to give me a job then.

 

[FortuitousFluke]

I happen to live in the real world as well where not one employer will ever give a crap about your qualifications, mainly because most people with any qualifications are still completely useless at any job.

Every teacher and person that says that an education will improve your chances of getting a job simply have their own heads stuck up their hmmms. You're more likely to get a job by never mentioning your qualifications and never putting more on an application than each job requires.

Wild speculation, you don't get called for many interviews do you?

I certainly wouldn't take a second look at anyone providing thw bare minimum in a job application. For entry and low level positions the interest is too high to waste time on people who can't be bothered and for our higher level positions the calibre is strong enough that you'll be crowded out by those who list more of their experience and background.

 

[JRS]

I happen to live in the real world as well where not one employer will ever give a crap about your qualifications, mainly because most people with any qualifications are still completely useless at any job.

Every teacher and person that says that an education will improve your chances of getting a job simply have their own heads stuck up their hmmms. You're more likely to get a job by never mentioning your qualifications and never putting more on an application than each job requires.

Yeah. Sure. Okay.

 

[BallistixOnZ490]

Wild speculation, you don't get called for many interviews do you?

I certainly wouldn't take a second look at anyone providing thw bare minimum in a job application. For entry and low level positions the interest is too high to waste time on people who can't be bothered and for our higher level positions the calibre is strong enough that you'll be crowded out by those who list more of their experience and background.

If a person meets the minimum requirements, you do realize its illegal to refuse them just on the basis that they only meet the minimum requirements?

If you require more then you specify you need more on the job advert, this isnt hard!

Take it from someone that won a £1500 tribunal payout for being refused an interview even though I met the essential criteria. Job ad said 'No experience isn't a deal breaker', and they said I didn't have enough experience to be interviewed. This is an easy money win for any applicant that can be bothered to go to the tribunal over it.

Now want to explain why Mother Hubbards wouldn't even interview me when I have 5+ years retail experience, previous 6 months working at the M&S cafe, and a degree? Wish I knew about employment tribunals back then.

Hint, it wasnt because of the things other than the degree part.

 

[Deleted User 298457]

Ive literally written a million and one times that ofc I have a degree.

A desmond doesn't count