what headphones do you own thread - i own dt150's :)

I know, I'm referring to the Blue 2's in my post, it was mentioned twice, I also referred to the original Blue as context and comparison, the Blue line are all about Harman Target curve, the original was one of the first IEM's at the time to really be tuned to that target curve, the Blue 2's have gone further down that road which is fine if your a fan of that but some people can find it a little fatiguing in the upper mids and lower trible, the Blue to is not an upgrade to the Reds, the BLue 2 have now been upgraded to the same drivers the as Reds, it comes down to which tuning you may prefer.

That would be the point, the point is try something REALLY close to the harman curve to see for myself what that is like, as a reference point, so to speak. It's one thing to see a graph, but it's another to have a sound to compare with.
 
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That would be the point, the point is try something REALLY close to the harman curve to see for myself what that is like, as a reference point, so to speak. It's one thing to see a graph, but it's another to have a sound to compare with.

Well that being the case then the Blue/2 is the perfect IEM to test that theory and see if you like the Harman Target, that will really help going forward when choosing IEMs in the future or upgrading. I actually don't mind Harman Targete too much in headphones but IEM's it seems to fatigue me a lot more, hopefully for you that isn't the case.
 
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Well that being the case then the Blue/2 is the perfect IEM to test that theory and see if you like the Harman Target, that will really help going forward when choosing IEMs in the future or upgrading. I actually don't mind Harman Targete too much in headphones but IEM's it seems to fatigue me a lot more, hopefully for you that isn't the case.

That's the plan and they are not really that expensive on the grand scheme of things.

But right now, I quite like this combo.

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Did the amp arrive yet by the way?

I'm still amazed by the capability of the K11 R2R but am also interested in seeing what the new R2R models this summer bring for a bit more money.
 
Did the amp arrive yet by the way?

I'm still amazed by the capability of the K11 R2R but am also interested in seeing what the new R2R models this summer bring for a bit more money.

It got caught by customs it seems, that's after taking a few stop over around the world. It will probably end up costing the same from Amazon (which is shipped from China anyway as they all have 2 weeks lead time). Going to need to wait for RM email or send me a postcard about payment now.

It's annoying that the HiFiman turned up in like 4 days (no cusoms) and this is taking like 2 weeks. But I also paid VAT when i checked out on Aliexpress too!

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You are about to be Britished then :D

I have escaped the customs grip from all Aliexpress purchases so far!

This is the first time getting stung from Aliexpress....I bought an OLED monitor from them last month that went through fine, but the amp is only the 3rd thing over £135. Everything else is under that.

Not been caught by customs in a LONG time tbh, the last time notable was probably a guitar or a pedal from the states, which would be like 8-9 years ago.
 
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I've been using the K11 r2r daily for a while now, and I've noticed a couple of things beyond my initial impressions of it. The soundstage compared to my previous dac/amp is narrower and while the bass region is definitely present, it feels to be lacking in body/presence. Im not sure if this is a characteristic of the dac or the built in headphone amp but either way while listening it has being making me think about just going back to the old amp. However, as I Only have 1 pair of headphones as a point of reference(DCA Aeon Open) and 1 alternative dac/amp as a point of comparison Ive decided it would only be sensible to purchase a pair of Fiio FT1 Pro's and a Topping l30 2 to get to the bottom of this. I think 6w of power should be enough :D
 
Think if the Arya's drop to £500 or below on Amazon I'll bite, got gift balance building and can't see me spending it on anything else there in the next year or so.

If I shift the Sundara's on and an older AMP/DAC I have, it shouldn't cost me anything in the end.
 
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Think if the Arya's drop to £500 or below on Amazon I'll bite, got gift balance building and can't see me spending it on anything else there in the next year or so.

If I shift the Sundara's on and an older AMP/DAC I have, it shouldn't cost me anything in the end.

I’ll be tempted to but I can’t see them being 3x or even 2x better than the Edition XS.

What worries me is I spend the money can can’t tell the difference!
 
There are obviously diminishing returns and the audiophile world is full of subjective opinions due to people preferring different frequency responses etc. I don't like having to EQ headphones.

For me, switching to the Edition XS would feel like a sidegrade to some egg-shaped hifimans and I don't think they would win out in all areas. The Arya's should beat them in every area!
 
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There are obviously diminishing returns and the audiophile world is full of subjective opinions due to people preferring different frequency responses etc. I don't like having to EQ headphones.

For me, switching to the Edition XS would feel like a sidegrade to some egg-shaped hifimans and I don't think they would win out in all areas. The Arya's should beat them in every area!

Diminishing returns doesn't bother me, if I can notice some difference, but I feel that if I can't at all then it would be money wasted.

One of the main complaint about the XS is the comfort, it being too big for some head size. I have a big noggin and I wear that 3-4 notches up and it sits fine on my head. I've even added a little leather headband to add some grip on top so it doesn't slide around now. No comfort complaint at.

Comfort is a big factor, I don't use my closed back headphones (Sony MDR-7506 or wired OG Momentum) because I don't like the pressure on my ear. So if the Arya is more comfortable then it would be justified.
 
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I really like the Crinacle Red's they are one of my favorites. I did have the Blue 2's on pre-order at Hangout Audio (had even paid). However with all the mediocre or worse reviews of them I have cancelled the order this morning.

I have the Simgot Supermix 4 which is considered "budget endgame harman" and I really like that. I had hoped that the Blue 2 would be special given my love of the Reds. There is so much good stuff at good money out there now I refer to Jays Curated IEM Audio list here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZHVib50XFQW4up3SwOZUTbI-hZB6Ir5LX6XnZblIM6o/edit?gid=0#gid=0

So I cancelled the Blue 2's and ordered a TRN Shell and a TRN Jaws to try in the Aliexpress sale :cry:
 
I really like the Crinacle Red's they are one of my favorites. I did have the Blue 2's on pre-order at Hangout Audio (had even paid). However with all the mediocre or worse reviews of them I have cancelled the order this morning.

I have the Simgot Supermix 4 which is considered "budget endgame harman" and I really like that. I had hoped that the Blue 2 would be special given my love of the Reds. There is so much good stuff at good money out there now I refer to Jays Curated IEM Audio list here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZHVib50XFQW4up3SwOZUTbI-hZB6Ir5LX6XnZblIM6o/edit?gid=0#gid=0

So I cancelled the Blue 2's and ordered a TRN Shell and a TRN Jaws to try in the Aliexpress sale :cry:

Those Jaws look ridiculous for £80 odd.
 
Does anyone use IEMs for gaming and general music listening ? I usually use over ear headphones (Grado sr325x and hifiman XS) but want to try some IEMs. Any good starter recommendations?

Kiwi Ears Cadenza is a good entry level one for about £30, it is relatively flat and balanced.

But about £25 more I also have the EW300 (£55), it is more comfortable i find, the cable is nicer, and feels better built. More V shape, bass is better as a result.

A side note, looks like no VAT, I mean I did pay it already!

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I've been using the K11 r2r daily for a while now, and I've noticed a couple of things beyond my initial impressions of it. The soundstage compared to my previous dac/amp is narrower and while the bass region is definitely present, it feels to be lacking in body/presence. Im not sure if this is a characteristic of the dac or the built in headphone amp but either way while listening it has being making me think about just going back to the old amp. However, as I Only have 1 pair of headphones as a point of reference(DCA Aeon Open) and 1 alternative dac/amp as a point of comparison Ive decided it would only be sensible to purchase a pair of Fiio FT1 Pro's and a Topping l30 2 to get to the bottom of this. I think 6w of power should be enough :D

The Fiio FT1 pro's arrived yesterday, they are a nice set of headphones. The build quality seems respectable even if the cup hinges need some lubrication to stop them from squeaking. Sound-wise they are very neutral with good sub-bass extension and a reasonably wide sound stage. Honestly, for the price they are incredible value however I will be returning them as I prefer the sound signature of my current headphones.

Looking at the k11 R2R, I have AB tested it with both pairs of headphones and compared to the old dac and using the topping l30 2 from the line out on both of them as well and from this I can hear that the smaller sound stage appears to be a characteristic of the built-in headphone amp and the weakness in the bass is a characteristic of the DAC.
 
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