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What is a good salary in UK at present?
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Living really well would be
-no money worries
-able to afford some things that most people can't. Such as really nice holidays, and a expensive finance car as well as mortgage
-but not having all the nice things.
So throw in a London mortgage, kids, commuting costs and 60k doesn't go far
No mortgage, no kids, WFH? 60k is amazing.
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Have you tried working harder?I'd say above 65/70K would probably be a 'good' salary, in my eyes.
I am not on a good salary
Have you tried working harder?
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But that means less time foruming. Be realistic please.Have you tried working harder?
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psssh i consider myself KentishS/E London need not apply
I think he's quoting the tory mp who said work longer hours or get a better paid job if you want to cope with rising costs.
Mp Rachel maclean
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She is right though.
Problem is someone needs to do the rubbish jobs, that are low paid, so the statement is only half correct.
Even those who earn little need to be able to afford the basics.
There is a big problem in the unskilled workforce of the nation getting out of the rut of low pay but at the same time we need unskilled workers doing those jobs. The biggest myth ever is that everyone is equal because they are not, not even close and especially so in business. Work ethic, ability to learn, lead, innovate, mindset to work, prioritisation over life etc etc etc all impact the value of a person to a business. That's where it starts and sadly modern mindset is people expect without any gives and that rarely works.
My advice is simple if you want a significant change in money have a plan, be it education, working your network, creating something whatever it may be but have a plan. If you just want more money 'because' you are likely to fail.
My advice is simple if you want a significant change in money have a plan, be it education, working your network, creating something whatever it may be but have a plan. If you just want more money 'because' you are likely to fail.
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Is this a copy pasta from the Fox Eye 5 years to 50k thread? Because he still isn't listening tbh
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... 50 years to 50k? Let's not rush this
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Did he get there?
We have too many people in these unskilled jobs demanding more pay when the job should be used to help the person move up the career ladder. Which equals better pay but we have a load of them just staying there, get comfortable doing the bare minimum just to get by. Then complain when their wages don't go very far.
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No but he does have a cat.
Not everyone feels the need to improve or grow a career. All they ask for is wages to rise with inflation.
You can guarantee the business owner is not taking a cut, and their customer is being charged more.
The whole idea that everyone should aspire to greatness, rather than just working to feed their family and spend time with them, is terrible.
You don't live to work, you work to live. If you want to work 16 hours a day, and build an empire, all power to you, but don't force your ideals on everyone else. That's not leadership, but dictatorship.
(I say this as someone doing well, in a highly paid job, yet constantly told I should be looking to grow and improve myself. Ignore the fact I was told throughout my life that I was 'lazy' and 'could do better', and that nobody amongst my parents and the education system realised I am 'highly functional' and neurodiverse, so already working much harder than them to just function 'normally')
Let people live their lives. Absolutely they should trade their time and skill for the things they need, but nobody has the right to tell them that they should want to do more.
I think that's a bit of an exaggeration, there's plenty of rags-to-riches tales about, and living paycheque to paycheque doesn't mean people aren't enjoying themselves. I had a friend years ago who got a job in London and moved to a rented flat in Kensington, she had a great time but wasn't saving any money.
Basically having a baller salary means you can afford outgoings you wouldn't ordinarily be able to afford. Maybe some spend it on a family home and childcare / posh school, or put it in savings and investments so don't enjoy it, but not everyone does that. Being a girl she didn't need hookers so could just spend it on the other thing.
For sure, and the same applies in those discussions around "what would a life-changing sum of money be?". People [virtually] look at you funny if you say £100k or £500k wouldn't be particularly life changing but 6-figure sums can just be instantly swallowed up by buying a house that isn't a mansion meaning you are then still working full time etc. Factor in a few luxury purchases for short-term gratification and it's all gone.
That said I do think mentality plays a part when it comes to spending scaling with earnings, it seems lots of people just spend the same sort of proportion of earnings regardless of what they earn, so [ignoring property equity] they never really feel like they are rolling around in a bed of banknotes.
It's worth noting however that to enjoy a decent salary you have to actually spend it - so even if you have more disposable income that doesn't change anything in terms of short term enjoyment if you don't dispose of it.
Can't agree with that. My parents are drug addicts to this day in there 60's! I had a horrible child hood, poor as you can imagine because it all went to them on what they wanted. I disowned them when I was 16 and moved into a housing association flat (they kicked me out because I refused t pay them rent for drugs). I guess you could call me lucky because I liked computers but I worked at McDonalds for 3 years before walking into Fujitsu reception and handing them my CV. 5 weeks later I was working on a 1st line helpdesk learning the ropes.
I have never had any help from family in my life, everything I have done I have done on my own and now I earn 100k heading up an IT department for a Pharmaceutical company.
I still live almost paycheck to paycheck as I have 5 kids (couldn't keep it in my pants + twins for the last pregnancy) but we still have a good life, the kids get what they want, I get the car I want. The house is too small of course (3 bed) but at the moment it's not worth looking.
It's how you motivate yourself in life. As soon as I knew we had twins on the way I went and looked for a new job that would pay more. I managed to go from 75k to 100k in one move.
School was a complete write off for me. I didn't even finish my GCSE's! Yet I have managed to work my way up over 25 years, and of course most of my childhood memorys are supressed behind a massive thick wall
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