What is a good salary in UK at present?

Very much this.
I've never worked hard. But was born lucky with technical ability, got lucky with what I fell into.

I got my current role by chatting to someone at a BBQ about his need for a colleague. Yes, I’ve significantly developed my role within the business quite independently, and no longer work directly with that person, but without that BBQ it wouldn’t have happened.

Edit: I hasten to add, I did then have four interviews which I succeeded at, but I wouldn’t have even been aware of the role.

Total luck fest of circumstances.
 
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Networking is one of the most critical aspects, and why so many people will suffer in never being able to progress despite being very able.
I've been lucky in that I've fallen into enough situations where networking/popularity didn't matter, and so moved up through ability, but I'll likely never make management, because I don't 'fit' that role.
(I generally just tell the truth, and that's not popular in management)
 
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I got my current role by chatting to someone at a BBQ about his need for a colleague. Yes, I’ve significantly developed my role within the business quite independently, and no longer work directly with that person, but without that BBQ it wouldn’t have happened.

Edit: I hasten to add, I did then have four interviews which I succeeded at, but I wouldn’t have even been aware of the role.

Total luck fest of circumstances.
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(I generally just tell the truth, and that's not popular in management)

Likewise. Fortunately I've had enough good managers to have done pretty well regardless, but the one time when it would have been in my interests to "play the game", I chose not to (and suffered the consequences). I don't kiss anyone's behind for a few gold coins and never will. I am good at my job though and that is sufficiently apparent to enough people that I get on anyway. I would be screwed (or would have to consider compromising my principles) if the balance of good mangers to poor ones I'd encounted in my career were tilted the other way though.
 
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I think that's a bit of an exaggeration, there's plenty of rags-to-riches tales about, and living paycheque to paycheque doesn't mean people aren't enjoying themselves.
Eh, maybe you've just read it in a way I didn't intend. £100k when I was starry eyed and bushy tailed meant epic holidays, fast cars, etc. I now know lifestyle creep means I live just comfortably, but not excessive. Not that I am not enjoying myself, just that it isn't the "full unconstrained" thing I imagined :)
I still live almost paycheck to paycheck as I have 5 kids (couldn't keep it in my pants + twins for the last pregnancy) but we still have a good life, the kids get what they want, I get the car I want. The house is too small of course (3 bed) but at the moment it's not worth looking.
Covering your bills is my point. I am happy too; but also just covering my bills. I am just talking about not living the extravagance I thought £100k would buy me when I wasn't on 100k.
 
You probably knew where I was going with it but I'll say it anyways - A lot of people dont have £4k to give up front for a course to better themselves.

Good on you for doing it and getting a result from it. Its just not possible for everyone.
I think you're demonstrating what is wrong with a lot of modern mentality and expectation. He wasn't saying you go from doing a paper round straight to becoming an HGV driver, he's obviously had to make steps along the way to get to the position where he had a factory job and was able to save up enough for the training.
 
I think you're demonstrating what is wrong with a lot of modern mentality and expectation. He wasn't saying you go from doing a paper round straight to becoming an HGV driver,

I didnt say he was saying that at all :confused:

he's obviously had to make steps along the way to get to the position where he had a factory job and was able to save up enough for the training.

Of course. Unfortunately, some people are in the position where they cannot save up £4k as real life gets in the way - for example, they could be saving slowly and then something happens which means they have to use those funds.

My point is being missed - I dont have an issue with people working hard and getting a good result. I do have an issue with people that say that, if you dont end up in a well paid job then you must be lazy. Its just so ridiculously naive to think that is the only reason.
 
You probably knew where I was going with it but I'll say it anyways - A lot of people dont have £4k to give up front for a course to better themselves.

Good on you for doing it and getting a result from it. Its just not possible for everyone.

Unless you are physically disabled or a single parent/carer then I disagree. Minimum wage is £10.54. Working an extra 20 hours a week on a second job will get you that money in no time. Less than half a year to be precise. Then once you make that jump it enables you onto much high earnings which you can then reinvest into further education etc if you keep the same standard of living as you had before.

I have been there working in the same company for 15 years. It is so easy to get in that rut of existing especially if you're comfortable.

I am 37 years old and still have a good 30 years of working life. Still so much is ahead of me.
 
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Covering your bills is my point. I am happy too; but also just covering my bills. I am just talking about not living the extravagance I thought £100k would buy me when I wasn't on 100k.

You got that right, wow if I would have thought back 20 years ago about 100k, wow I would have been thinking of epic holidays as well. The kids absolutely demolish my finances lol
 
Synonym for: whine and moan and offer no solutions
Wow. .. I guess you're not an English major.
Also a synonym for "honest", "straightforward", "up-front"... see how that works ?
30+ years in Software Engineering suggests that I offer plenty of solutions, but you're correct in that I will absolutely complain when stupidity shows itself. Hence my reply now.

Oh, and for what it's worth, read up on Neurodivergence as well. It may help you appreciate the wider world, rather than just throw insults around when you don't understand. You may even learn something about yourself.
 
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Wow. .. I guess you're not an English major.
Also a synonym for "honest", "straightforward", "up-front"... see how that works ?
30+ years in Software Engineering suggests that I offer plenty of solutions, but you're correct in that I will absolutely complain when stupidity shows itself. Hence my reply now.

Oh, and for what it's worth, read up on Neurodivergence as well. It may help you appreciate the wider world, rather than just throw insults around when you don't understand. You may even learn something about yourself.
wahh wahh wahhh the world is the problem not me!!11
 
Compared to junior doctors and nurses although I hold a lot of responsibility for my area, I certainly do not feel I work as hard as them at least with the stress that they are going through. A senior consultant etc.. then I feel on par but they also still carry much more responsibility in their hands. Private, well that's a different story altogether.

I never imagined I'd be on a 6 figure salary, but also imagined it would provide me far more luxury. But life does change as you get older, kids, family life, but also accepting a certain quality of life changes your perceptions.

I could cut back on luxuries such as:
  • foreign holidays,
  • buying bits online (random bits and bobs I don't really need)
  • shopping at Waitrose / local butcher,
  • subscriptions to various things,
  • fast internet,
  • private medical stuff (physio etc...)
  • reduce my mobile phone contract
  • move to interest only mortgage
  • don't eat out any more,
  • plus a whole lot of other things that I can't think off the top of my head.
However, I feel that because I'm in the position I should be able to enjoy life a little. I don't live paycheque to paycheque, but I still have to save up for stuff.
 
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