What is "Fast"?

I think you should use Notepad more when posting. You can write down all the things you've said on here so that you don't make up new stuff in arguments that contradicts them and we avoid situations whereby you try and argue yourself out of direct contradictions rather than say 'doh'.

This means you wouldnt do things like tell us you got 7mpg more on Super when 6 months ago you said it was only 2mpg more, you wouldnt tell us you raced an M3 over a year ago when you didnt buy the car until this year, etc etc. You could call it MikeHiow's story book or something and it would help you avoid the glaring inconsistencies which always develop when you try and tell a story to suit your argument rather than suit reality.

The downside though is it wouldnt be nearly as amusing for us, though.

Anyone with half a clue will understand a car with what is probably just a crack in the fire ring between two cylinders can run what appears to be pretty much fine

What did he do a compression test for if the car ran fine? For the lulz? Oh I'm bored, I think I'll run a compression check? There must have been symptons, you dont just compression check an M3 for no reason.
 
I think they are being very harsh on you and Fox's post have become quite pathetic tbh.

You are right, its just me. I'm the only one who finds this with his posts and I'm the only person who picks him up on his contradictions and glaring inaccuracies.

Perhaps you've just read this thread in isolation, in which case I can see your point. But stick around for a few weeks. You'll soon discover that in every thread MikeH's car is winning races, beating everything, he's a former racing driver, he's a master mechanic, he's pretty much superman, champion of the universe.

People think I'm a know-it-all because I post all the time.Whereas MikeHiow actually comes out and tells us all he knows everything :D
 
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Mind you Fox, your idea of a race is to see who's climate control can hit 25 degrees first ;)

Seriously though, I'm not sure what the argument here is, Mikes story is credible, of course the test wasn't accurate... but no roll on test like that is going to be.

Mike, I think you confess to all that you held the M3 at bay until 90 odd, but at same time admit you got the jump on him... which makes the test irrelevant
 
i do think an ST would have a slight chance from 40-100 or whatever it was, reason being? torque delivery.

good torque response means the car would get up and go from the off. the m3 would take time to get into its stride if it wasnt in the best gear, and if the revs were down then i still think it would struggle.

obv once the m3 was on pace and the BHP started to count (ie high torque at high revs) then the m3 would lay down the law.
 
Hang on. So from a 40mph rolling start, the M3 failed to pass a tuned Focus ST until 90mph? Plus the M3 had a head gasket failure and was only firing on 4 cylinders?

And it was on a public road?

And it was possible that the M3 driver wasn't trying?

And the M3 could have been in a higher gear than the Focus.

So the Focus is just as fast 40-90mph as an E46 M3?

K.
 
Remember guys. Think of threads like this as evening TV. They are there for entertainment value. Look! The people love it, it even has 5 stars.
 
I think you are all very horrid this forum has gone to the dogs it wasnt like this in my day when I signed up 9 months ago, you should all be ashamed and post about diesel estates and trim levels instead, much better.
 
This sums up the thread and generally OCUK Motors for me


Me too, in parts.

Banter tbh, and I'm more than sure Mike can handle it. ;)

Silly thread warrants silly discussion. :p

Its utterly un-important but not reflective of the forum, or its members, as a whole imo.
 
[TW]Fox;17645858 said:
You are right, its just me. I'm the only one who finds this with his posts and I'm the only person who picks him up on his contradictions and glaring inaccuracies.

Perhaps you've just read this thread in isolation, in which case I can see your point. But stick around for a few weeks. You'll soon discover that in every thread MikeH's car is winning races, beating everything, he's a former racing driver, he's a master mechanic, he's pretty much superman, champion of the universe.

People think I'm a know-it-all because I post all the time.Whereas MikeHiow actually comes out and tells us all he knows everything :D

No, but there are the select few who seem to follow you blindly, sometimes without even reading the thread, they just attempt to back up your argument (usually badly) probably because they believe they'll avoid the sort of grilling you dish out so well, as so regularly.

This is the other thing you do, take something someone has said and blow it way out of proportion. You tell everyone I think I'm some kind of racing driver because I once said 'I'd like to think I was a better driver than your average joe', you keep coming up with this master mechanic thing because I've mentioned undertaking work myself that you yourself do not understand.

Seriously though, I'm not sure what the argument here is, Mikes story is credible, of course the test wasn't accurate... but no roll on test like that is going to be.

Mike, I think you confess to all that you held the M3 at bay until 90 odd, but at same time admit you got the jump on him... which makes the test irrelevant

Yes, the test is irrelevant, and would be even more so if I said "LOL MY CAR IS FASTER THAN AN MTHREE!". But that isn't what I said, all I said is that I consider my car fast enough to 100 seeing as it managed to hold a friends M3 at bay in the given situation.

i do think an ST would have a slight chance from 40-100 or whatever it was, reason being? torque delivery.

good torque response means the car would get up and go from the off. the m3 would take time to get into its stride if it wasnt in the best gear, and if the revs were down then i still think it would struggle.

obv once the m3 was on pace and the BHP started to count (ie high torque at high revs) then the m3 would lay down the law.

Which is exactly what I said happened.

peterattheboro said:
Hang on. So from a 40mph rolling start, the M3 failed to pass a tuned Focus ST until 90mph

Correct.

peterattheboro said:
Plus the M3 had a head gasket failure and was only firing on 4 cylinders?

No.

peterattheboro said:
And it was on a public road?

Of course not ;)

peterattheboro said:
And it was possible that the M3 driver wasn't trying?

No, that isn't possible. You seem to have missed the bit where I said it was a friend and we conferred afterwards.

peterattheboro said:
And the M3 could have been in a higher gear than the Focus.

Its likely he was in whatever he thought to be the optimal gear, he knew what was going to happen.

peterattheboro said:
So the Focus is just as fast 40-90mph as an E46 M3?

No, my friend failed to pass me until around 90MPH in his M3 on a run from around 40-90.


Me too, in parts.

Banter tbh, and I'm more than sure Mike can handle it. ;)

Silly thread warrants silly discussion. :p

Its utterly un-important but not reflective of the forum, or its members, as a whole imo.

I can handle banter, and I'm not going to lose sleep over this thread, but it is ridiculously frustrating to see people ignore every aspect of the argument, except "Focus ST vs. M3? LOL".
 
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[TW]Fox;17645858 said:
MikeH's car is winning races, beating everything, he's a former racing driver, he's a master mechanic, he's pretty much superman, champion of the universe.

Just awesome.

:eek::o:D
 
Me too, in parts.

Banter tbh, and I'm more than sure Mike can handle it. ;)

Silly thread warrants silly discussion. :p

Its utterly un-important but not reflective of the forum, or its members, as a whole imo.

I'm not trying to defend him, he's attempted the same thing with me. Its always the same thing and its always the same people, finding the good info means sifting through a lot of internet war lord posts.
 
I'm not trying to defend him, he's attempted the same thing with me. Its always the same thing and its always the same people, finding the good info means sifting through a lot of internet war lord posts.
Sure. but the quality outweighs the drivel - here , as in the forums in general as opposed to this thread, or indeed motors,at least.

a lot of it is jumping in for the hell of it, myself included - and, indeed at you in the past! :o


I freely admit I rise to it, and enjoy it.

Theres always the ignore function, but its just no fun then.....
 
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