What is it that makes people hate Apple so much?
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It's probably his Android autocomplete not working that well
They’re usually the fanboys who never take off their blinkers. They almost see any comment as an attack on themselves and their cherished possession. So they have nothing else to do but go out of their way to defend/promote what they perceive to be the best usually throwing logic out of the window. It’s not worth worrying about as you soon spot who they are and can ignore most of what they say which is a shame because occasionally they speak some sense. Forums would be dead boring if they weren’t around.
I think most people hate the Apple fanboys rather than apple themselves.
Anyway I love my iPhone but would never buy a mac. I just prefer windows and also think that the price is too high for what you get with a mac.
As for an iPad i think they are just pointless, just like most other tablets, you can do so much more with a laptop with a proper OS.
Anyway I love my iPhone but would never buy a mac. I just prefer windows and also think that the price is too high for what you get with a mac.
As for an iPad i think they are just pointless, just like most other tablets, you can do so much more with a laptop with a proper OS.
I can totally understand someone not wanting a Mac, or iPad, or iPhone.
However, some people absolutely HATE Apple, you would think they were a load of child killing nutters the way some people talk about them. It's absolutely bizarre.
Also, if you try to reason with these people, their reasoning is often totally incorrect and their assumptions are silly and wrong.
What do you think causes it? Other companies certainly don't seem to get peoples backs up like this. Some people speak of Apple with a vehement disgust for everything they do. They're a technology company for goodness sake, relax?
I wasn't even aware that people disliked Apple, I mean really, when did all this happen?
You pay £500+ for an iPhone but you wouldn't buy a Mac as you think the price is to high? Go figure?????
Clearly he thinks the iPhone is worth £500 but a Mac is not worth the asking price.
It's not hard to understand.
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It isn't the software patents that bother me. It's the hardware patents. Apple frequently patent design features that are not just obvious but inevitable, such as making tablets rectangular - and even then they've been known to screw up their design (see: Antennagate).
Firstly, everyone does that. Secondly, that is a problem with the patent office signing off on pointless patents, not Apple's or Samsung's or anyone else's fault.
Overpriced products and their fanbase.
The fanbase leads to Apple being able to charge high prices for their goods and no matter what, people will buy them regardless due to it having the Apple logo on it. Not to mention they have the highest order of material aspirations I have ever seen.
The fanbase leads to Apple being able to charge high prices for their goods and no matter what, people will buy them regardless due to it having the Apple logo on it. Not to mention they have the highest order of material aspirations I have ever seen.
Wah wah wah. And Ferraris are too expensive as well!
I'm writing a complaint to Bugatti as we speak.
I'm not a huge apple fan but I bought an iPad due to the fact it just works, the selection off apps is far superior to any other tablet. I think all apple products are overpriced, but they always feel like a quality product 
The whole "just works" argument can't be over-stated.
What gets me is how many Apple bashers criticise the company for the way they 'lock down' products or 'lock you in' to things like iTunes, but what they fail to realise is that this is one of the brand's biggest strengths.
Most of us here are what you'd call 'techies'. We are not afraid of technology and love to tinker and configure things and have no trouble working out how to do things with it. The average consumer, however, is not like this.
Take music or movies or TV shows. If the average consumer, who's not particularly au fait with technology, wants a smart phone or tablet which they can use for these types of content, what do they do? With an Apple product, you just install iTunes and you're done. You have the store right there where you can purchase stuff and it's automatically synced to your device and there are good, built-in apps to listen to or view it.
Now say they have an Android handset or tablet. They can't use iTunes so first they have to find somewhere to purchase the content from. Where exactly? They're left to Google around to find some site they can purchase and download content from. Once they've done that, they'll have some downloaded files, such as MP3 or video files. What do they do with these? How do they sync them to their device? Once they've worked that out, how do I listen to or view these files? I need some kind of app. Oh the Marketplace will be full of them but which one, what are the differences? I wouldn't blame many consumers for giving up before they reach the end, asking why things have to be so difficult.
This is the key. Many people complain about the Apple lock-ins and cite the flexibility of other platforms as an advantage, but it can also be a serious disadvantage, especially for those who want things to "just work". This is the single reason why the iPod conquered the MP3 player market so quickly and completely. The total end-to-end solution of being able to buy, sync and play music without "faffing about" made it so compelling. When Apple first launched the iTunes store (for music only originally), they anticipated selling their first million tracks in six months. It took six days.
What gets me is how many Apple bashers criticise the company for the way they 'lock down' products or 'lock you in' to things like iTunes, but what they fail to realise is that this is one of the brand's biggest strengths.
Most of us here are what you'd call 'techies'. We are not afraid of technology and love to tinker and configure things and have no trouble working out how to do things with it. The average consumer, however, is not like this.
Take music or movies or TV shows. If the average consumer, who's not particularly au fait with technology, wants a smart phone or tablet which they can use for these types of content, what do they do? With an Apple product, you just install iTunes and you're done. You have the store right there where you can purchase stuff and it's automatically synced to your device and there are good, built-in apps to listen to or view it.
Now say they have an Android handset or tablet. They can't use iTunes so first they have to find somewhere to purchase the content from. Where exactly? They're left to Google around to find some site they can purchase and download content from. Once they've done that, they'll have some downloaded files, such as MP3 or video files. What do they do with these? How do they sync them to their device? Once they've worked that out, how do I listen to or view these files? I need some kind of app. Oh the Marketplace will be full of them but which one, what are the differences? I wouldn't blame many consumers for giving up before they reach the end, asking why things have to be so difficult.
This is the key. Many people complain about the Apple lock-ins and cite the flexibility of other platforms as an advantage, but it can also be a serious disadvantage, especially for those who want things to "just work". This is the single reason why the iPod conquered the MP3 player market so quickly and completely. The total end-to-end solution of being able to buy, sync and play music without "faffing about" made it so compelling. When Apple first launched the iTunes store (for music only originally), they anticipated selling their first million tracks in six months. It took six days.
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I'm not one for posting in these anti-Apple/pro-Apple debates. I feel that they're a waste of time, and it's a constant pattern that the people that slate Apple have no experience with the eco-system or the products, and claim "hate" Apple for the sake of it, without a genuine reason. Most say it for the sake of saying it too without even disliking Apple. It's exactly the same as a Mac user saying that Windows sucks, with no reasoning as to why they think that Windows sucks.
Lack of features...what can't my 4S do that an Android phone can? Don't say NFC, as that's not even existent here yet. Locked to Apple...how many Android users use legitimate external sources to get apps? Virtually none - everybody uses Android Market. Apple are controlling the eco-system because guess what, they want their products to just work. Google control Android Market, the only difference is that you have the option to not use it; however, you have very little reason not to.
As for Macs...again, nothing that they do that any other machine can't do, and vice versa. No "locking in" whatsoever...use whatever apps you want from anywhere.
There are too many more to respond to...
Note that I'm not under the opinion that Apple make the best products in the world. People make exclamations that are just plain wrong. I prefer Apple's products, but that's just my preference.
Why is it that some people use every opportunity to slate Apple? Works both ways.
People always use the "no customisation" argument, but they don't realise that UI consistency is vital to iOS devices for the average Joe. Jailbreaking and rooting are both options, but Android rooting can often be more hassle than it's worth, and jailbreaking can bring huge performance hits (which I will not be dealing with again myself).
Lack of features...what can't my 4S do that an Android phone can? Don't say NFC, as that's not even existent here yet. Locked to Apple...how many Android users use legitimate external sources to get apps? Virtually none - everybody uses Android Market. Apple are controlling the eco-system because guess what, they want their products to just work. Google control Android Market, the only difference is that you have the option to not use it; however, you have very little reason not to.
As for Macs...again, nothing that they do that any other machine can't do, and vice versa. No "locking in" whatsoever...use whatever apps you want from anywhere.
As above, explain this. They "lock" their users in, but why would you need to leave their eco-system in the first place? And surely you're locking yourself into a platform by...using it? And how is a Mac locked in?
Yes, because Microsoft is so much better when it comes to fair competition.
There are too many more to respond to...
Note that I'm not under the opinion that Apple make the best products in the world. People make exclamations that are just plain wrong. I prefer Apple's products, but that's just my preference.
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Because they're owned by sheep/snobs....only reason. Everyone with an apple product seems to think it's god's gift to technology when it isn't, it's just got a pretty packet! I have to admire the marketing, it really has control over people. I'd rather spend £300 on a laptop and spend the other £700 on something interesting....so there you go, my opinion
I know your point is slightly different, and I agree that the end-to-end control is a good experience for people, but I actually think the whole "just works" thing is over-stated. And by a large margin.
The amount of problems with Apple gear I've had - persistent wireless connections issues, breaking MacBook cases, OS installers throwing up black screens, batteries refusing to wake up from a complete discharge, back lights failing, antenna issues, home buttons sticking etc. etc. They cause me just as many problems (if not more, but that might be due to me having a higher proportion of Apple gear) than any other device from any other manufacturer.