Nobody said that.
Why make it a thing?
Oddly you absolutely are making a thing out of what could be honest confusion that holds no racial connotation.
What is white privilege?
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Nobody said that.
Why make it a thing?
Oddly you absolutely are making a thing out of what could be honest confusion that holds no racial connotation.
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How do you know a very young looking white person, also not in court dress, wouldn't get the same response?
I had to go to a local court once to drop some stuff off on behalf of my employer. I was searched bodily everywhere you can imagine shy of having fingers up my bum and there was no apology.
It's totally possible this woman forgot her ID and/or had to go through the EXACT SAME PROCESS every bugger else does that turns up at the doors at certain times.
Forgive me for being sceptical but I've seen too many 'DAS RAYCST!" claims that were just chancers taking advantage, and almost all of them were people who already had positions of power.
PS: I'm not white, so don't even go there.
Caporegime
I've been to court twice as a witness and was searched on both occasions too. Must admit was treat like crap actually. Really tarnished my view.
I’m responding to the order of events. It was you that made the statement as to how black she was, not I. You could have said “it may have just been a mistake”, but you did not. You first claimed she was practically ‘Daz’, so forgive me for thinking that might relate to your very next comment
I can’t say with certainty, but I certainly can say that I don’t feel that I would ever be treated that way as a white man if I, err, was a lawyer.
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We can flip it round the other way for both of you; what would it actually take for you to be convinced that it wasn’t mere coincidence or for some other reason?
If you could never be satisfied because there isn’t the requisite proof, does this mean that we should disregard all racism that cannot be proved? Quite curious to hear your responses to that.
Caporegime
So you mean to tell me you think it's impossible that a young white man, in ordinary dress, who went in to a court might not automatically be assumed to be a lawyer?
Are you high/drunk/daft?
In addition to your weasly virtue signalling it's also apparent that you don't know what you are on about as well.
Theres no “white privilege”... or “non-white disadvantage” here.... because what's the chances of let's say an ethnically Han Chinese female would be mistaken for a defendant in similar circumstances?
Considerably less would be the answer I suggest.
This lady received similiar treatment to than men receive every day in the Criminal Justice system.
Namely adverse stereotyping because they come from a demographic that commits far higher per capita rates of crime than other groups.
Well, I am a lawyer...
Ok, noted.
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Two comments in that BBC report particularly struck me:
One does wonder whether a young white woman would have been addressed so rudely?
One would like (optimistically and probably unrealistically) to think that Amazon would refuse to have any further dealings with both the cretin selling deeply offensive hats and the scum who ordered a deeply offensive hat.
If she presents herself in court similar to the way she looks in that video I am not surprised she is regularly mistaken for a defendant.
Caporegime
Well, I am a lawyer...
Ah, a professional liar then!
I’m responding to the order of events. It was you that made the statement as to how black she was, not I. You could have said “it may have just been a mistake”, but you did not. You first claimed she was practically ‘Daz’, so forgive me for thinking that might relate to your very next comment
Definitely the lawyer thing, in honesty it was an off the cuff statement for me.
I'm often pretty literal, no hidden agenda or anything else.
She just looked very pale skinned and I found it interesting, and as stated later she's attractive as all hell.
Maybe take off the lawyer goggles when interacting with some on here?
Actually, your edit to add this comment is pretty interesting as, yes, that is the point entirely.
Nobody should be discriminated against in that manner, including men.
I prefer ‘occupational teller of untruths’.
No worries sorry for the misunderstanding
No worries sorry for the misunderstanding
It's fine.
Probably an eventuality given our stances and employment history.
I would ask that you approach things without the lawyer goggles on as I expect it's your default.
Its relatively unusual for barristers to attend magistrates courts in the first place (the CPS would rarely instruct them to prosecute in Magistrates courts and they would be expensive to instruct if you were a defendant).
So regardless of the ethnic appearance of the person its not that unusual that court staff would challenge an unrecognised person (even in a suit or similar) as they would be used to seeing a lot of the same solicitors representing defendant's or representatives from the Crown Prosecution Service at court.
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I have only just seen this moan and I haven't stop laughing since, it quite made my day to be frank
She sounds a nightmare.This is the problem with these anecdotes, mostly unprovable allegations with no context given which would provide a reasonable alternative explanation as to why the person was treated the way they were.
If it weren't for organisations like the BBC pushing this victimhood culture people would not be chalking everything up to racism.
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