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What is white privilege?
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Supposedly their new director is going to change that. It's got so woke now it's cringe worthy.
I guess people have voted with their wallets as a lot more people are cancelling the licence. They are going to woke themselves to death if it continues.
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When will you stop beating your wife?
They got too bold and funny now all the left are starting to cry foul about the potential new anti woke director general. They were fine when it suited them and the whole thing only came about because they failed to be inpartial. Its sad people cannot see the BBC failed in thier duty and people were forced to actually step in to stop it.
It is not enough for me, I want nothing less than the staff and HQ responsible moved and repopulated or the entire BBC dismantled and sold off. I dont care either if it was the greatest national tv service in the world Britain used to have many leading things but they also were destroyed by the same types. So whats another one now?
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It's not my field but wasn't post modernism against absolute truths accepting the unknowable whereas our brave new warriors for a more socially just future have an absolute view of what is true and what is not.
It has been a phrase of mine for a few years but the "new religion" is a lot like the "old religion".
It has been a phrase of mine for a few years but the "new religion" is a lot like the "old religion".
Pretty much, with some caveats.
Critical Social Justice uses some of the core principles and tools of Postmodernism as a starting point and then injects some interesting contradictions.
For instance, CSJ supports the postmodern rejection of objective reality when it suits — eg the ideas of 'lived experience' and 'research justice', which say that Western society is built on the ideas of white CIS men and that there are other ways of 'knowing' that need to be recognised.
Then, on the other hand, there are concepts like the idea that racism is constant and everywhere — Robin DiAngelo's "The question is not 'Did racism take place?', for that is to be assumed, but rather 'How did racism manifest in that situation?'"
For CSJ, reality is entirely subjective unless you're talking about the oppression of minorities, in which case it's not only objectively true but absolute.
Postmodernists like Foucault and Derrida would have a field day with the current state of the social sciences.
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Sounds interesting - I might have to read up on that. I have to admit that I'd largely written it off as a tool of SJWs and commies without really bothering to investigate it.
I've wondered for a while now why as a society we're not more accepting of what we don't know, especially after we supposedly moved away from religion which was really just a way of explaining stuff we don't know about.
I highly recommend 'Cynical Theories' by Helen Pluckrose and James Lindsay if you want an insight into the ideology behind CSJ and where it came from.
My only criticism of the book is the way it sometimes portrays certain ideas under the banner of 'Postmodernism'. At the start of the book, the authors make the point that Postmodernism is difficult to define and that the concepts within it can be difficult and fluid. They then proceed to spend the rest of the book stating absolutes like Postmodernism is 'anti-science' and 'anti-medicine', which is both simplistic and wrong. Other than that, it's excellent.
If you're interested in the Marxist relationship to CSJ, James Lindsey has an excellent blog post on the subject — The Complex Relationship between Marxism and Wokeness. Essentially, while CSJ may be Marxian, it isn't Marxist, even though some SJWs may also be Marxists. Simple, right?
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Yeah true - I guess I don't really wonder why we pretend to know when we don't. It's more accurate to say that I get frustrated with it, especially as so many people have a huge blind spot when it comes to recognising this behaviour in themselves, or even seem to give an answer which is basically "if we don't know then it's better to act as if we do know".
But to your point about religion, a lot of people who aren't religious still do it, and even do it whilst arguing that religion is ridiculous (had that debate on this forum a few times).
You make it sound like a choice. Many are indoctrinated from birth into religion.
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Bit of a chicken or egg scenario though - did religion cause people to need to know 'the truth' or was religion created to satisfy people's need to know 'the truth'? As I mentioned, I observe similar behaviour in non-religious people all the time. Most people have their beliefs and delusions.
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Heh. I love answering "I don't know" as it's often the best and truest answer.
Example: gravity.
No-one knows how that works, but most people assume they do.
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I know how it works - apples detach from trees and fall to earth. THE END
What's your take on dark matter?
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It's out there and we know it's there but we can't see it and one day we might discover that it's not really there but for now we know it's there. Oh, and apples are attracted to it.
EDIT: Let me know where I pick up my Nobel prize from.
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