What retro things have you done today?
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G550? Not a bad Matrox card really.Today's RetroPurchaseRescue
Yep - found it and a couple of PCI G450's lurking in a box at work.
LewisRaz: I am out of room I need to clear out my stuff.
Also LewisRaz: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Retro-Vi...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 New case inbound
Also LewisRaz: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Retro-Vi...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 New case inbound
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wonder what treasures that will hold!
I'm counting it as just a case but there might be a system in there. I can make out an upside down HDD in there. I am hoping its a proper AT case after the excitement of buying it I didnt think there is a chance it might be an OEM form factor which wouldn't be ideal..
Now I've got a motherboard capable of running over 112MHz FSB I thought it would be a good opportunity to try my actual PIII Tualatin (1133MHz/133fsb) in the iP3/T adapter. This will happily run at 150fsb/37.5pci at 1275MHz (maxing out the board, 150fsb is as far as it goes). It actually eeks out the Celeron Tualatin running at 1568MHz (I guess the increased cache and the faster memory speed make up a lot of the raw CPU clockspeed shortfall).
3DMark2000
V5/Pentium 3 850: 3846 3DMarks
V5/Tualaron 1400: 4274 3DMarks
V5/Tualaron 1568: 4659 3DMarks
V5/Tualatin P3 1275: 4662 3DMarks
V5/Pentium4 3GHz: 4802 3DMarks
Quake 3 Arena (32-bit textures and colours):
V5/Pentium 3 952/640x480: 76.3fps
V5/Tualaron 1400/640x480: 90.8fps
V5/Tualaron 1568/640x480: 100.7fps
V5/Tualatin P3 1275:/640x480: 108.1fps
V5/Pentium4 3GHz/640x480: 162.7fps
V5/Pentium 3 952/800x600: 76.3fps
V5/Tualaron 1400/800x600: 90.0fps
V5/Tualaron 1568/800x600: 100.0fps
V5/Tualatin P3 1275:/800x600: 107.4fps
V5/Pentium4 3GHz/800x600: 138.9fps
V5/Pentium 3 952/1024x768: 73.9fps
V5/Tualaron 1400/1024x768: 88.4fps
V5/Tualaron 1568/1024x768: 97.5fps
V5/Tualatin P3 1275:/1024x768: 103.3fps
V5/Pentium4 3GHz/640x480: 112.7fps
I don't think it would take much additional clockspeed for a Tualatin based CPU to beat the P4 at 3DMark2000, perhaps 1350MHz~ at 150MHz FSB. Clearly the issue with Quake 3 is lack of CPU grunt still, even with the FSB/RAM boost to 150MHz the Voodoo 5 is data-starved.
Oh well, gone and ordered a Tualatin 1400S 512KB. That's probably the best CPU I'm ever likely to get on Slot 1/Socket 370 (technically the Celeron 1500 is the fastest, but has half the cache at 256KB, and I've never seen one for sale).
Hopefully this will run at 150fsb like my current 1133MHz 512KB Tualatin PIII does, meaning a nice 1578MHz (co-incidentally 10MHz faster than my 1400MHz Tualeron will do at 112*14=1568MHz).
It's a shame this Tualeron won't boot at anything over 112FSB even with all the volts in the world pumped into it, whereas the 1133MHz PIII will happily do 150fsb at stock volts!
Hopefully this will run at 150fsb like my current 1133MHz 512KB Tualatin PIII does, meaning a nice 1578MHz (co-incidentally 10MHz faster than my 1400MHz Tualeron will do at 112*14=1568MHz).
It's a shame this Tualeron won't boot at anything over 112FSB even with all the volts in the world pumped into it, whereas the 1133MHz PIII will happily do 150fsb at stock volts!
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My second first 4890 arrived. Got it cleaned out and it's working nicely.
I then remembered that I can crossfire a range of cards in the 48xx series so I've now gone for that classic 4890 and 4830 combo! What could possibly go wrong with this arrangement on the hottest day of the year?
Although it doesn't seem to work. It reached the desktop, windows installed something and then I just got a black screen
Edit - works fine as xfire after a restart
I then remembered that I can crossfire a range of cards in the 48xx series so I've now gone for that classic 4890 and 4830 combo! What could possibly go wrong with this arrangement on the hottest day of the year?
Although it doesn't seem to work. It reached the desktop, windows installed something and then I just got a black screen
Edit - works fine as xfire after a restart
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I just gave it a go and I was hopelessly CPU bound with the Q6600. Skyrim (original version) also. So I'm swapping it out for my i7 860 Which also has a bigger gap between PCI-E slots.
Lasted at least a day then the s775 build! Impressive!
Did the drivers work?
Really can’t wait for my PIII-S 1.4 to arrive, though that will mean that my Slot 1 tinkering is done as it’ll be the ultimate P3 and ultimate 3dfx box (unless I can snag myself a 6000, which is unlikely!).
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Nah that 775 board was up and running for a week or so (on and off). I drivers worked on the board but didn't fix my slightly odd PS/2 / USB support.
Sold as working tested, which I don't believe could have been the case unless the seller was ham-fisted in packing it for shipping!
I've got the opposite with eBay, I can't find my item if I search for one of the key words in the title (3DFX).
I've got the opposite with eBay, I can't find my item if I search for one of the key words in the title (3DFX).
Yours came up in 1/4 of my alerts although I havnt really done any specific searches for a while. Just broad "vintage" and "retro"
Hopefully the seller reimburses you for that dead card then!
Refunded. Still going to see if I can get the card working though.
Spent the refund already, bought a 3DLabs Wildcat VP880 Pro. Always wanted a 3DLabs card, even though I know they are utter cack for gaming (it should sit somewhere between my Parhelia and a Ti4200 I think).
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My 3DLabs permedia 2 is/was pretty bad compared to its contemporaries. Its fine for DOS and has a nice VGA output I found. The colours or something.
The question on my mind is should I play Arx Fatalis or Morrowind?
I've slowly built up a reasonable choice of AGP cards but don't really have a system to use them in. Do you think I should go 754 (not really used) or normal boring 478? It would need to be powerful enough to use a 6600GT or 7600GS with...
The question on my mind is should I play Arx Fatalis or Morrowind?
I've slowly built up a reasonable choice of AGP cards but don't really have a system to use them in. Do you think I should go 754 (not really used) or normal boring 478? It would need to be powerful enough to use a 6600GT or 7600GS with...
My Pentium II bundle arrived yesterday:
Great packaging especially since postage was included in the £10.57 paid
Pentium II 300 - £506.04?
S3 Virge DX
QDI Legend-V
AWE64 CT4520 and ISA multi-io card
Only done a quick test but all seems to be working. Matrox G550 works as well.
Just need to have a look through some of my boxes and see if I can find some more RAM, as I could only find at short notice a 256MB PC133 which POSTed but came up with a failed memory test error, and a 128MB PC150 stick that seems a waste on a board with (likely) no overclocking options.
Great packaging especially since postage was included in the £10.57 paid
Pentium II 300 - £506.04?
S3 Virge DX
QDI Legend-V
AWE64 CT4520 and ISA multi-io card
Only done a quick test but all seems to be working. Matrox G550 works as well.
Just need to have a look through some of my boxes and see if I can find some more RAM, as I could only find at short notice a 256MB PC133 which POSTed but came up with a failed memory test error, and a 128MB PC150 stick that seems a waste on a board with (likely) no overclocking options.
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