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What the hell is going on in this country regarding dentistry?
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Soldato
NHS dentistry has always been an odd thing anyway - why is there a partial charge for a procedure? You don't partially pay to visit your GP or to have a minor operation, so why do you partially pay for a filling or broken tooth?
Hospitals should just have dentistry departments, available to all. These two-bit high street NHS dentists are no better than backstreet tooth pullers.
Hospitals should just have dentistry departments, available to all. These two-bit high street NHS dentists are no better than backstreet tooth pullers.
Your dentist was never an 'NHS' dentist. Rather they were a private business who took some patients whoose care was (partly in some cases) paid for by the NHS.
But, like many others, they have decided to stop this as its far more lucrative for them to only take private clients.
Pay directly towards you own dental care. A model that is pretty much the norm the world over.
It's not clear what you think the 'conservatives' could have done? It's the dentists deciding not to offer treatment at the low NHS rates. The only thing the govement could realistically do is increase the amount of money it was paying for NHS rates against a backdrop where the state deficits and debt has already massively ballooned not just in the UK but in many other countries as well.
I suspect you and your ilk are in for a real shock if you think labour will 'solve' anything in this regards, even if they are given the 15 odd years the tories have been in power (either alone or in a coalition).
The negative tends in healthcare in general are going to be strongly driven by issues out of any goverments control.
Because the main issue is that we have an ageing population with the associated issues around the costs of providing healthcare and pensions etc.
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Soldato
This has been happening since at least the millennium to my certain knowledge. Dentists calling and saying we are only taking private patients from now on. You can remain on our books for six months but then you must sign up to our plan if you want to remain with us for longer. We hope that you do.
It is nothing new. In fact it was probably initiated by the Blair government in their relationship with dentists and payments.
It is nothing new. In fact it was probably initiated by the Blair government in their relationship with dentists and payments.
Soldato
I agree that the taxpayer element should be looked at again and a term of engagement in the NHS required to reimburse the taxpayer could be considered.
Banning private healthcare like schooling is a step to far in a democratic society.
That doesn't make it the right approach in a civilised society. Would also be a bit different if prices were more reasonable - around where I live basic examination starts at £60+ and any course of treatment is £490+ quickly getting into the 1000s.
Soldato
Nevermind the "small" issue of dentists being incentivised to upsell unnecessary or even harmful treatments. e.g. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2000/apr/16/futureofthenhs.health
Often at exorbitant cost. No wonder some people are pulling their own teeth out with pliers.
Britons are 'pulling their own teeth out with pliers' because they can't access NHS dentists
A YouGov poll which spoke to more than 2,000 people found more than 10% of people had attempted "DIY dentistry" - with more than half of those having carried it out in the last year.
news.sky.com
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Dentures arent cheap.
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I had a good NHS dentist until last year until he went private and hired what can only be described as a butcher to do the NHS work. Failed extraction followed by a referral to a hospital. Great...
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Hard, soft or bridging? £250 for one £650 for the other and thats NHS prices, the latter is private and £1800+
My mothers 81 on a very fixed pension and can't get anything other than private, as a result she very rarely goes as its astronomically more than she can afford
"Your ilk"?
Very good.
And if you look at my history on here I'm not voting Labour, although to be fair I certainly don't think they would have decimated the NHS looking at their funding trends for NHS pre Conservative government.
Caporegime
My local dentist when I was a child went private in the early 2000's. He was South African but was top notch. The filling he did is still going strong 20 years later.
Yes the ones that don't acknowledge that the primary problem with healthcare in general is that it's getting much more expensive to provide, on a per capita basis, and that very little of this has to do with the differing policies of the main political parties in the UK
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They could ban MPs from using private healthcare, would be an incentive for them to make sure the system works.