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What to expect from AMD on October 8th?
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I except more hype!!
I'm looking forward to AMD revealing what they've been working on.
I'm looking forward to AMD revealing what they've been working on.
I got basically full build done sitting back in the cardboard box the case came in waiting for the CPU.
Needless to say this can't come soon enough.
Even if AMD do bring 10-15% improvements per gen consistently, a lot of people still won't get much benefit from upgrading every gen.
Games (and game requirements) will be tied to the current console gen, for instance. And also mostly dependent on GPU performance instead.
Productivity people with workloads that scale well across more cores will have a case for upgrading every other gen.
Otherwise I think +45% is a nice upgrade, anything less is a bit "meh".
And this all depends on AMD being able to bring +15 each and every gen.
P.S. I wasn't thinking back to P4 days or before - the last decade tends to set people's expectations, everything before that is ancient history as far as I'm concerned. There was a pretty good upgrade when they switched from those bulb things to transistors too
Gaming is an interesting aspect. With the 3080 and potentially big navi you might start seeing cpu bottle necking at the 1440p. The reason for me not committing to it, is that 3080 don’t scale that nicely at low res.Even if AMD do bring 10-15% improvements per gen consistently, a lot of people still won't get much benefit from upgrading every gen.
Games (and game requirements) will be tied to the current console gen, for instance. And also mostly dependent on GPU performance instead.
Productivity people with workloads that scale well across more cores will have a case for upgrading every other gen.
Otherwise I think +45% is a nice upgrade, anything less is a bit "meh".
And this all depends on AMD being able to bring +15 each and every gen.
P.S. I wasn't thinking back to P4 days or before - the last decade tends to set people's expectations, everything before that is ancient history as far as I'm concerned. There was a pretty good upgrade when they switched from those bulb things to transistors too
beside the points, I think whatever you game at res that’s cpu bound then cpu IPC or node shrink gain can give you you will take. Especially if the 1440p monitors go the same way as 1080p
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What to expect from AMD on October 8th - benchmark slides to show the 5800x destroying the 10900k
What to expect from Intel on October 8th - another statement saying benchmarks aren't important, it's about the user experience
What to expect from User Benchmark on October 8th - another new algorithm
What to expect from Intel on October 8th - another statement saying benchmarks aren't important, it's about the user experience
What to expect from User Benchmark on October 8th - another new algorithm
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Another statement to say their algorithm is perfect, and that we're all wrong, and -100% applied to anything with a 5000 in the title is appropriate because 5000 is only half of 10000.
Shillbench, benching shills until their balls drop off.
I think they will include at least 1 demonstration of big navi with the new CPU, in a way that shows it to be faster than a 3080.
Likely via a low res CPU bottleneck scenario where big navi will be made to look faster, but only because intel+nvidia were CPU limited.
Likely via a low res CPU bottleneck scenario where big navi will be made to look faster, but only because intel+nvidia were CPU limited.
What to expect from Intel fanboys on October 8th - Zen 3 is a 100% failure because it doesn't hit 5.1GHz on all cores
What to expect from 4K8KW10 on October 8th - AMD is a joke of a company because 12 cores doesn't cost £50
What to expect from me on October 8th - empty wallet thrown out of the window, 6700K gets a hug because somebody somewhere still has to love her, and then stare evilly at my missus' 2600X
What to expect from 4K8KW10 on October 8th - AMD is a joke of a company because 12 cores doesn't cost £50
What to expect from me on October 8th - empty wallet thrown out of the window, 6700K gets a hug because somebody somewhere still has to love her, and then stare evilly at my missus' 2600X
It'll be a tease or an Easter Egg if they do, the Navi event is the 28th and I doubt AMD will want to cross-talk. October 8th is about Ryzen and only Ryzen. Any gaming demos will be done using a 2080 Ti because that's the standard.
Tbh I don expect much movements on mobo front but ram and nvme seem to be getting cheaper due to lacklustre demand and historic supply issue.
For sure... and that will be a fair metric to the 3000 series rtfs and 10000 intel’s.
I’m currently playing 1080p most games 40-80fps
I7 2600k 4.3ghz
Vega 56 950,1000
16GB memory
Where will the Zen 3’s take me?
I’m thinking about maybe 5800x
Plus 3080 or AMD equivalent
So not the very best but on high end.
Will I be heading towards 1440p widescreen?
Or 4K gaming?
I would want similar frames or better. However don’t want to upgrade to all new parts for the resolution to cripple the frames to less than I have.
Hope the question makes sense and thanks in advance for any questions
I7 2600k 4.3ghz
Vega 56 950,1000
16GB memory
Where will the Zen 3’s take me?
I’m thinking about maybe 5800x
Plus 3080 or AMD equivalent
So not the very best but on high end.
Will I be heading towards 1440p widescreen?
Or 4K gaming?
I would want similar frames or better. However don’t want to upgrade to all new parts for the resolution to cripple the frames to less than I have.
Hope the question makes sense and thanks in advance for any questions
Depends really if you want 1440p at 100+ FPS or 4k at ~60 FPS.
Personally I'm planning on moving from 1080p/60 to 1440p/100+. I think the increased framerate will be more beneficial (with my crappy eyesight anyhow!) than a 4k pin-sharp image at lower framerates.
e: (That's if I can ever decide on a new monitor... seriously, too much choice!)
Thanks for the numbers. That’s what I was looking for.
Also I think widescreen would be nice and immersive.
Wasn’t sure if they ran 4k at 100fps or not. I suppose with 1440p as the games get better graphics and more complex, the whole system will last longer before upgrading.
I don’t fancy spending 1.5k - 2k on a machine to have less FPS than I currently have.
Same as you with the monitors. Lots having issues at moment. I was thinking of the LG 34GN850 (think it’s called that) however thought 1k on a monitor was a lot, when I can seriously upgrade my PC for that amount. However when I upgrade PC, in order to make most, I need a better monitor! Catch 22
So now asking where the new tech sits me, so I can plan the monitor too.
If 4K is too low on frames.
My next thought is if to get 34 or 38 Widescreen 1440p and how much a difference those resolutions will make.
As long as I get an upgrade in gaming and a lot better system for Video editing, I’m good.
Don't read too much into my made up numbers, it was just to illustrate the point that you might want higher frame rates at 1440p more than you want 4k
Whether you get 4k/60 or 4k/100 will depend almost entirely on the game and the settings you use in game.
There are plenty of reviews of the 3080 out now to give you some (better) idea of the ballpark numbers in current (ish) gen games.
Bear in mind that next gen games (so-call for the next gen of consoles) will likely push your GPU harder. You can still probably hit the higher frames by turning down settings, but max settings at 4k in next-gen games will probably eat all the power a 3080 has to give.
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@markymoo
In my opinion 1440p is still the sweet spot for gaming. I am not saying 4k cant be done, but, you really need to be going really high end hardware, and then it depends what kind of gaming experience you want and what kind of performance. Single player games with high end hardware 4k, sure, why not? But to try and play anything competative or something where you need consistent high FPS, then......I dont think we are quite there yet.
As you corectly stated above "depend almost entirely on the game and the settings you use in game"
@markymoo
In my opinion 1440p is still the sweet spot for gaming. I am not saying 4k cant be done, but, you really need to be going really high end hardware, and then it depends what kind of gaming experience you want and what kind of performance. Single player games with high end hardware 4k, sure, why not? But to try and play anything competative or something where you need consistent high FPS, then......I dont think we are quite there yet.
As you corectly stated above "depend almost entirely on the game and the settings you use in game"
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I can't see me changing from my 3900X as tempted as I may be.
The 3900X was a stupid purchase to begin with
The 3900X was a stupid purchase to begin with