What would you call an average wage?

It's bold you think you will get 15% average for the next 30 years. I reckon you will be grateful to have £800k (last 30 years performance, based on annual compounding that I quickly did in Excel)

Inflation and rich are getting richer. Companies are getting more efficient and with robotics profits are only going to go one way. I probably didn't take the 2008 crash into account but that should now be a one off and unable to happen again. Even this pandemic has been rode extremely well with only a slight hiccup. Yeah it's optimistic but it could be done.

Still £800k gets you a decent house with spare cash for a his and her matching lambos.
 
Inflation and rich are getting richer. Companies are getting more efficient and with robotics profits are only going to go one way. I probably didn't take the 2008 crash into account but that should now be a one off and unable to happen again. Even this pandemic has been rode extremely well with only a slight hiccup. Yeah it's optimistic but it could be done.

Still £800k gets you a decent house with spare cash for a his and her matching lambos.

£800k in 30 years time might buy you the equivalent of a £200k house now with nothing left for lambos.
 
Can you run me through how you managed to purchase, upgrade and pay off a house in 9 years on a low wage?
  • Deposit paid - source of this?
  • Purchase price
  • Average Monthly payments made
  • What your wage was that you consider low
  • Other income - spouse, inheritance etc?

I'm not having a go but, if you re-read what you have said in both your last posts as an "outsider" without this info, it doesn't appear to add up.

Paid 44k in the 2000s, 3bed semi also having kids and a low wage helps as family credits were very very helpful, got a small amount of redundancy in 2007 then agency work mostly so pretty poor apart from only a few years as a cad programmer 27k but remember taking home £210 on a bad week in 2008
My other half worked the odd afternoon or day or two,
As you can work out a 44k mortgage can be pummeled easily, had a few years of extreme saving after paying mortgage off ,did celebrate with a panny plasma that i still have
Not too fussed about doubters tbh
so deposit £2200
pp £44k
av payments it was nationwide and no fees for overpayment any spare money went in
wage average well under 20k nearer 14 to 15
 
obviously it was a lot easier buying a house then on a low wage back then ,low deposits and buying cheaper than renting
 
Paid 44k in the 2000s, 3bed semi also having kids and a low wage helps as family credits were very very helpful, got a small amount of redundancy in 2007 then agency work mostly so pretty poor apart from only a few years as a cad programmer 27k but remember taking home £210 on a bad week in 2008
My other half worked the odd afternoon or day or two,
As you can work out a 44k mortgage can be pummeled easily, had a few years of extreme saving after paying mortgage off ,did celebrate with a panny plasma that i still have
Not too fussed about doubters tbh
so deposit £2200
pp £44k
av payments it was nationwide and no fees for overpayment any spare money went in
wage average well under 20k nearer 14 to 15
Sorry I'm still trying to work out how you bought a house for 44k after the boom had already happened, unless I'm missing something.
 
Sorry I'm still trying to work out how you bought a house for 44k after the boom had already happened, unless I'm missing something.

44k would have been something needing a lot of work.

Saying that when we were buying in 2010 there were 4 bed detached repo's going for 130k. East Midlands so I could easily see a 2 bed terrace going for 50-60.
 
ha yes ,working on it ,this was a house down the street a little before we got ours ,i think i posted a pic of the area in a living by a main road thread
thats all i can say really ,not too fussed tbh

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Sorry @moon man your explanation to people on the internet isn't good enough - please post scans of receipts, blood sample and national insurance number
credit cards, bank cards and a signature specimen please

I will withdraw a small sum of a measly 44,000 to confirm your identity before spending the lot as fast as possible
 
Paid 44k in the 2000s, 3bed semi also having kids and a low wage helps as family credits were very very helpful, got a small amount of redundancy in 2007 then agency work mostly so pretty poor apart from only a few years as a cad programmer 27k but remember taking home £210 on a bad week in 2008
My other half worked the odd afternoon or day or two,
As you can work out a 44k mortgage can be pummeled easily, had a few years of extreme saving after paying mortgage off ,did celebrate with a panny plasma that i still have
Not too fussed about doubters tbh
so deposit £2200
pp £44k
av payments it was nationwide and no fees for overpayment any spare money went in
wage average well under 20k nearer 14 to 15

obviously it was a lot easier buying a house then on a low wage back then ,low deposits and buying cheaper than renting

Fair play. You did well :cool:

Granted, houses were a lot more reasonable even in the early 2000s but still good effort paying it off early and reaping the rewards of the house boom to help move on.

As you said, absolutely no way it could be done again on that wage these days.
 
Can you run me through how you managed to purchase, upgrade and pay off a house in 9 years on a low wage?
I know this has been covered now but in generic terms surely it all comes down to how much the house cost in the first place. Paying off a house costing under £50k in 9 years isn't that unbelievable, do £500/month and that's what £54k paid which I guess isn't far off covering the interest.
Personal circumstances are not relevant, everyone has their own choices and lives. Earning the same means you are starting at the same place.

A person earning more is doing better, the only exception are perks of the job. I.e. TFL employee's have free travel, my colleague spends £200 a month, and so that would be worth £3500 pre-tax.



Not argue, earning more does not make you spend any more, it allows you to.

A person can spend their money however they like. But you can never justify spending more then complaining X is not enough, if you are say, above the average even.
Yeah I've never really bought into this "oh if you earn more your outgoes scale with it so you aren't really any better off", because people conveniently overlook the benefits they get from their increasing spending, i.e. they live in a much more expensive house than someone else, drive a nicer car etc. That's a choice they've made.

Since buying this house my gross income has increased by about 5x (takehome more like 3.5-4x) and my wife's by about 30%. Mortgage and student loan is paid off, didn't just rush out and buy a nicer house (although in hindsight with property market trends we'd have been better off doing so!). Car is worth about £6.5-7k so nothing too fancy. Haven't taken an overseas holiday since 2012. Now part of that is down to having kids which admittedly does cost a lot but I've also taken the opportunity to grow savings a fair bit. The one area I am majorly deficient in is pension, statement the other day said I should expect not much more than £300/month when I retire haha, so I need to sort that out. My pension pot is actually smaller than my ISA pot! I've let myself down a lot here because I regard myself as pretty savvy with money, good at maths etc but I've always made excuses around pensions, some sort of irrational fear of locking money away "oh but what if we want to move house I might need both the capital and not want my income to look lower on a mortgage application"

Anyway the point is I don't really think about money in the sense of "how much do I have, can I afford to buy X, now I'm earning this much what should I spend my money on, if I max out a mortgage what mansion could I move to?.." etc. Earning more money allows me to not really care about it that much, I just build up some funds, occasionally splurge some of it, whilst I'm certainly not rich I'm also secure enough to not be worrying about where the next pay cheque is coming from in the short term. I took 4 months out of work between jobs recently, and at no point was I getting concerned about it. And that's not me saying "check me out, billy big shot" but more an illustration that earning more can take away a lot of money pressures if you aren't playing keeping up with the joneses. If we had done a house move to a big house, family holiday to Disneyland, flash motor etc then maybe I'd have less flexibility/security.
 
ha yes ,working on it ,this was a house down the street a little before we got ours ,i think i posted a pic of the area in a living by a main road thread
thats all i can say really ,not too fussed tbh

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I'll let you off:cry:. I doubted it as our house (a 3 bed detached), cost 68k when it was built in 1996 so that's why yours seems suspiciously low.
 
I paid £44k for my 2 bed (+ box room) mid terrace in 2003, from a developer selling ex-MOD properties.

Just had to camp on site for 2 weeks to hold my spot in the queue (seriously! Lol) but then the developer "paid" the 5% deposit (ie: they accepted 95% of the valuation) and using their on the day surveyor/solicitors in total it cost me less than £500 in cash. They are worth over £100k now.
 
Yeah I think some people are a little surprised how us povety stricken folk ;) can carve ourselves a reasonable life, yeah so house B in Cornwall was 100k (pfft wtf ect) , I know the jury found me innocent (not a majority) of the purchase price of house A, but.............. a lot of work involved but tbh not that much (garden was an wild jungle), its just how some of us poor people roll ,making the right decisions and investments ,gambles outside of work if a decent wage cant be had ,i dont think i am good enough at anything to paid well from it


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reading the title....
An average wage for what? It would depend on the level of job wouldn't it?
How much of your time you exchange for money and how much mental knowledge and effort you bring to the job?
 
For me living here in Kent and not earning much , my best chance of owning my own property is right to buy as a social housing tenant , you get a bigger percentage discount the longer you’ve been renting the place or been a tenant of the same housing association or council. But that’s just more years of paying rent anyway to get discount.
I think my flat is valued at roughly 200k according to the housing association website. So I would still need 10% deposit?
I earn just under that p.a. now.
 
Well in terms of stats, average (median) gross earnings for full-time workers in the UK as a whole equals £585.5 per week, in 2020. Highest in London (£716.4) and lowest in North East England (£523.5). Source: ASHE; ONS
 
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