Soldato
Batteries contribute to the body structure regardless of what they are called or filled with. Great marketing from Tesla that’s basically their non servicable pink PU goo they fill around the cells.
When are you going fully electric?
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Im pretty sure their structural battery packs are based around their own 4680(?) cylindrical cell form factor which is only produced/used in the US. I’m pretty sure it’s also only the cars produced in Texas that actually get it.
Cars made outside the US get different cells and have a different spec car.
Cars made outside the US get different cells and have a different spec car.
OK hadn't realised the 4680 wasn't ubiquitous yet - moreover aren't there performance benefits even if capacity is the same such that worldwide owners would want them ..
( come to think of it the pink-candifloss is a bit like the antitamper dye bombs the movies show in armoured cash vehicles.)
( come to think of it the pink-candifloss is a bit like the antitamper dye bombs the movies show in armoured cash vehicles.)
if you watch some of Sandy Munro's teardown it goes deeper than that. Basically almost the entire car chassis is pressed from one chunk of metal with the battery pack, seats and everything raised up through the centre of the car.
Soldato
not sure I need to watch him to qualify my statement. I’ll see what he says in 2 years with more interest.
Something bolted in to a car will never be as well connected as the monocoque.
They need to rename the structural battery to “easier to build a car” battery. Cos that’s all it is.
Something bolted in to a car will never be as well connected as the monocoque.
They need to rename the structural battery to “easier to build a car” battery. Cos that’s all it is.
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You should argue that point with Colin Chapman. Using the engine as a stressed member. Suspension, struts, bracing etc is all pretty par for the course.
Which one is it then? Do we need to be worried about it? Oh my god another thing to worry about with EV's
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Can you imagine the NVH
The fact Nasher suggested a few days to get an engine out says it all on his credibility. Ipace battery will come out in about 8 hrs.
It won't and the 4680 cells are not the best on the market.
No you don't need to worry about it just like no normal person worries about how easy it is to remove an engine from a car (which isn't very easy in a modern car...).
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Soldato
Hello, id like to reference two bookends of an argument and then apply an out of context factor of 5.
krhxbye.
Who on earth said barely attached? It’s just basic mechanical principles.
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You will get over it in time, just take it one day at a time.
Battery concerns are one of the factors of the second hand price drops. Which makes them more affordable now for those who don’t have a way of buying them new. But those buying new now pay more a month due to residuals .
Not sure it’s goalposts moving. It’s the market moving and you have seen it from a second hand buyer view so you like depreciation
No battery is easy to repair so not sure right now you can select particular ones as a fleet owner. To be honest the fleet owner orders the cars the end customer wants based on… price .
In terms of repairs the glued together cells are harder to repair but Tesla do seem to not worry about repair.
Usual idle musing though
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Thank god, I was almost having a panic attack and I don't even own an EV
I would suggest not going into hysterics about something you don't have.
For example I'm not worried how much an gearbox and engine out is on Ferrari F355
or this S5 egnine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXwU_hwPOjo&ab_channel=IDoCars
Sorry, just doing a tin foil job
That makes no sense. Nothing has changed with regard to batteries, if anything the technology is only improves in leaps and bounds.
Whats feeding battery concerns is all the Fud on social media and Media in general. Look at the utter gibberish on this thread, from people who wouldn't know one end a spanner from the other.
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I didn’t say it had. I was on about the used car market. And yes battery concerns are a factor in secondhand prices. Doesn’t matter why but it’s the reality
Most people I work with have a SS EV paying 55-60% of the monthly. Hardly any will buy a second hand Ev ever. Just churn out a new one every 3 years and dump the old one on the market.
SS prices are up about 20% this year due to residuals (some will be ved, cost of borrowing ). Most are extending the car an extra year to get the lower monthly for another year before getting a new car (greener option too)
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