When are you going fully electric?

Oh they get used - when in reverse, the first braking of the day, below 5mph and when more braking power than the motor can prove is required.
I wasn't suggesting they don't. They'll still need to get greased up every so often to prevent it happening and make sure they actually last as long as you expect.
 
While true, you'd be very wise to have them greased every couple of years to stop the callipers sizing though.
to be clear I am not saying this isn't true.... however every time I hear about greasing brakes reminds me of when my mum god bless her, put vaseline on my rally grifter wheels to stop my brakes from squealing when I was about 10 years old......

luckily no major harm done...... but it did scare me enough that I remember it at least 38 years later.
 
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to be clear I am not saying this isn't true.... however every time I hear about greasing brakes reminds me of when my mum god bless her, put vaseline on my rally grifter wheels to stop my brakes from squealing when I was about 10 years old......

luckily no major harm done...... but it did scare me enough that I remember it at least 38 years later.
haha I'm glad you survived :p

Perhaps I should be more specific, cleaning and greasing the calliper pins to ensure they move freely and not the disks and pads :cry:
 
Not terrible then, hope he's enjoying it. Did they do the free/cheaper charger offer as well?
Not bad aye cheers. Anyway you look at it really, it's much better than the current volvo pcp he has. :) just waiting on it arriving still. Hopefully end of this month so not long to go. We had to pay 3rd party for EV charger and install. :(
 
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How many of you, who own a EV don’t have a home charger and rely public charging or super charging. Just curious as I don’t have a drive way and park my car over night in a parking bay across the road or on the road in front of the house. Iv seen many solutions online to help charge cars at home for people like me.

I do however have a Gridserve charging station near by and have a Tesla dealership with superchargers a 10 min walk from my house. I would also have the ability to charge at the golf coarse I play at. Just toying with the idea of getting a EV maybe next year, once my current car woes over and done with.
 
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How many of you, who own a EV don’t have a home charger and rely public charging or super charging. Just curious as I don’t have a drive way and park my car over night in a parking bay across the road or on the road in front of the house. Iv seen many solutions online to help charge cars at home for people like me.

I do however have a Gridserve charging station near by and have a Tesla dealership with superchargers a 10 min walk from my house. I would also have the ability to charge at the golf coarse I play at. Just toying with the idea of getting a EV maybe next year, once my current car woes over and done with.

I don't own a charger at home but I do (for now, anyway) get free charging at work.

If you don't have a home or subsidised work charger then you're not going to get the benefits of cheap charging or mileage if you're using those Tesla or Gridserve ones.

In fact, it probably works out to be more expensive if you only charge at those places.
 
How many of you, who own a EV don’t have a home charger and rely public charging or super charging. Just curious as I don’t have a drive way and park my car over night in a parking bay across the road or on the road in front of the house. Iv seen many solutions online to help charge cars at home for people like me.

I do however have a Gridserve charging station near by and have a Tesla dealership with superchargers a 10 min walk from my house. I would also have the ability to charge at the golf coarse I play at. Just toying with the idea of getting a EV maybe next year, once my current car woes over and done with.
I would say nearly all EV owners on here can charge at home or where the car is normally parked (e.g. at work).
 
I do however have a Gridserve charging station near by and have a Tesla dealership with superchargers a 10 min walk from my house. I would also have the ability to charge at the golf coarse I play at. Just toying with the idea of getting a EV maybe next year, once my current car woes over and done with.

Off peak charging at Tesla is pretty reasonably priced, not sure how much your golf course would cost per kWh but it is a golf course so probably not cheap. I guess it comes down to how many miles a week you do on average if it is too much of an inconvenience for you. If you only do 200 miles per week then you might only need to charge once per week.
 
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For reference, I did a back-of-a-fag-packet calculation when I bought mine and the equivalent cost of my diesel was about 50p/kwh. Most public charging ends up being about 50% more expensive than this, so it wasn’t till I got 7p home charging that the savings really make it worth it.
 
That doesn't even make sense. Are you saying you can fix an ICE car 100%?
Most ICE cars are typically something you can rebuild thanks to the abundance of parts and knowledge where as the EV market is taking off in a time when a lot of companies design their products to be repaired and maintained by their own specialists or even worse: be non repairable so you have to buy a new one.

It would be nice to see some DIY friendly electrics emerge so people could gain the knowledge and keep their own EV's going but i'm not seeing that from new EV's.
 
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Most ICE cars are typically something you can rebuild thanks to the abundance of parts and knowledge where as the EV market is taking off in a time when a lot of companies design their products to be repaired and maintained by their own specialists or even worse: be non repairable so you have to buy a new one.

It would be nice to see some DIY friendly electrics emerge so people could gain the knowledge and keep their own EV's going but i'm not seeing that from new EV's.
I think you’ve got some mis-conceived ideas about how difficult it is to diagnose and repair an electric car. They are incredibly simple machines compared to their ICE counterparts.

There is very little to actually go wrong and they are very reliable. The cars that have been on the market the longest (Model S, Model 3, Leaf, Zoe, Ionic, Soul, e-golf etc.) are very well understood with a plentiful supply of first party, 3rd part and used parts.

They are easy to diagnose and problems on them in the rare case you get an issue. The routine maintenance is a complete doddle.

There is no taking half the engine bay apart to reach the spark plug on cylinder 6 because for the most part, under the bonnet is full of fresh air.

Why do you think they are difficult to maintain and repair DIY?
 
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I have a hybrid at the moment and I can't see myself going fully electric unless I have to. For longs journeys they just don't charge fast enough. I can still pull up and fill a tank of petrol in less than 5mins and be leaving the forecourt. Even with rapid chargers I can't get that kind of mileage in that amount of time and that ultimately will always be the problem. Until they can provide a similar range for a similar length of stop. That and there is still a woeful lack of charging across the country. My local large supermarket has 4 chargers, 4!. How do they think that is going to work? Every space or at least 50% of the spaces are going to need chargers so that people aren't fighting over them. Sorry it's a great idea and I am fully supportive of the environment but infrastructure has a long way to go.
 
Most ICE cars are typically something you can rebuild thanks to the abundance of parts and knowledge where as the EV market is taking off in a time when a lot of companies design their products to be repaired and maintained by their own specialists or even worse: be non repairable so you have to buy a new one.

It would be nice to see some DIY friendly electrics emerge so people could gain the knowledge and keep their own EV's going but i'm not seeing that from new EV's.

There’s no incentive for manufacturers to make 400V systems DIY friendly, house wiring is and how many people need to get electricians to swap plugs.

I think you are over estimating your own skills aswell as underestimating the robustness of modern EV hardware. They are car businesses making products, not offering customers a City & Guilds!

Can you rebuild an engine?
 
I think you’ve got some mis-conceived ideas about how difficult it is to diagnose and repair an electric car. They are incredibly simple machines compared to their ICE counterparts.

There is very little to actually go wrong and they are very reliable. The cars that have been on the market the longest (Model S, Model 3, Leaf, Zoe, Ionic, Soul, e-golf etc.) are very well understood with a plentiful supply of first party, 3rd part and used parts.

They are easy to diagnose and problems on them in the rare case you get an issue. The routine maintenance is a complete doddle.

There is no taking half the engine bay apart to reach the spark plug on cylinder 6 because for the most part, under the bonnet is full of fresh air.

Why do you think they are difficult to maintain and repair DIY?
Really? Sorry I might've been a bit ignorant as the most in-your-face problems for DIY has been Tesla. Not only do you have to get past firmware to do anything to it meaning people have to take their cars to specialists but instructions are kept under lock and key. And unlike the cars you mentioned: they absolutely hate aftermarket parts. You have to buy OEM. And there are rumours that you can't even buy all the parts for the Cybertruck meaning you could be totally screwed in some instances.

But yeah, was checking out the E-Golf and there's a Youtube video on a full overhaul. I stand corrected!
 
when I was growing up there was always a. car axel or some engine parts laid out on the drive.

however it has been a long time since any car was user serviceable beyond the obvious parts. the 1st thing that happens with any new car seems to me to be plug it into a computer.

now sure there will be some bits and bobs you can do...... but chances are those parts you can do on an EV anyway and the rest may not even be on an EV to need to replace.

as for the cybertruck..... I can say I have followed that closely as Tesla have no plans to release here, but it seems to me that there isn't much positive to say about that vehicle full stop. I wouldn't judge EVs based on the cybertruck anyway.

to be fair I am clueless anyway. I check my tyres, washer fluid and used to check my oil .... but that is about it.

do Haynes even still exist? and if they do do they still release car manuals.
 
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Really? Sorry I might've been a bit ignorant as the most in-your-face problems for DIY has been Tesla. Not only do you have to get past firmware to do anything to it meaning people have to take their cars to specialists but instructions are kept under lock and key. And unlike the cars you mentioned: they absolutely hate aftermarket parts. You have to buy OEM. And there are rumours that you can't even buy all the parts for the Cybertruck meaning you could be totally screwed in some instances.

But yeah, was checking out the E-Golf and there's a Youtube video on a full overhaul. I stand corrected!
Are you making this up?


Tesla service mode gives you a ton of diagnostics without even needing a laptop.

They also open-source some https://www.tesla.com/legal/additional-resources#open-source


Tesla can get fussy if the car has been in a big crash and is removed from the supercharger network, they insist on checking the car over before the re-enable it's access to the supercharger network.

They sell their parts at very reasonable prices. I don't have a cybertruck ofc, but it is new. People on YouTube don't seem to be having issues getting the parts they need...
 
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