per location too, not sure if need to schedule when I’m not at home but it will do it.
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It’s the same smart way on our previous Audi and our Volvo EVs. You set a home location on the Audi app (or maybe it was the car UI) and can tailor your charging times etc. Just seems to be a stupid oversight with JLR.
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Too busy bursting onto the scene than worrying about ***** electrical installs 
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For those who Granny charge what are your setups like?
Do most of you just put it through an open window?
Or in the case of those charging overnight have you set something up so windows aren't open etc?
I know how I'm going to do it but interested in other peoples ideas before I do it.
Do most of you just put it through an open window?
Or in the case of those charging overnight have you set something up so windows aren't open etc?
I know how I'm going to do it but interested in other peoples ideas before I do it.
Mixture but never out a window or door, I don’t live in a barn
At my house it was under the garage door, on my caravan I use an outside socket and at relatives it’s an outside socket.
A few times I’ve used an extension lead which I ran through the letter box. A 3 pin plug will not fit through a letter box but a standard single non-IP rated socket will. I combined this with a dry box.
Just be careful with IP rated sockets, decent granny charger plugs have temperature sensors in them and both the plug and cable are often thicker and much stiffer than your usual appliance. That means they can often pull themselves out of the socket when you try to close the lid, if it even fits at all. I would use an IP socket which is designed to be used with a granny charger like those that toughleads sell.
edit: if you are going to the trouble of adding a new circuit for an outside socket, you might as well use a commando socket and get the full 32A from it.
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Not much difference in expense fitting a proper charger if you're doing that though.
The same can be said for if there isn’t a suitable existing circuit you can run an outside socket from.
Using a commando socket and a standard 3 pin socket is a grey area when it comes to the regs. They are general purpose sockets but they could also be used for EV charging. By the word of the regs, if they are there for the purpose of EV charging, they all need to meet the same requirements as a dedicated charger. In reality, the charging equipment can just be unplugged and the socket now meets the regs because the EV stuff wouldn’t apply.
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you aint pulling 32A from a simple socket, if you run 6mm cable why make your house look like a camping site.
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Not sure I said that but ok. Ultimately people do the commando socket thing because it’s cheaper and doesn’t carry the EV charger installer premium.
You don’t have to make it look like a campsite and most chargers on the market look trash anyway, particularly tethered chargers that don’t side the cable. For example, the Zappi literally looks like a toilet seat.
Like is said, it’s a grey area, it’s only significantly cheaper if you install it as a general socket. If you did it to all the EV regs, it probably wouldn’t be that different on install costs.
The portable EVSE would be a lot cheaper than a ‘proper one’ as it wouldn’t need to have all the smart stuff in it. The downside is you need a compatible car to access the very best smart tariffs.
If you need to run a new circuit for an outside 3 pin socket (as the guidance suggests for EV charging), you might as well run it in 6mm and put a commando on the end of it. The cost difference would be negligible.
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My sister and bro-in-law both own an EV and just have an outdoor weather proof mains socket like the photo above. It depends on mileage/usage but I'd have thought most people could charge an EV just using the granny charger 1/2 times a week overnight or at the weekend. It's not recommended to leave an EV battery at 100% for a long time either from a long term battery life pov. So unless you need it just set the cap to 80% charge in the car settings.
Any info on that external socket would be appreciated. I keep reading about many not being big enough for the thermally regulated plugs and charger cables. The fact that one locks would make me happy about leaving the cable attached which is a big plus.
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I've been doing that with my eBikes for 14 years and my last several phones have an 80% cut off.
The MG has a nice screen for it.
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Well you did, you suggested the wiring was appropriate inside the house for a 32A commando plug, There no 'ok' to magic electrons down a cable to thin.
If the ring main/wiring loop isnt good enough for 32A then you need to run a 6mm cable from the consumer unit, once youve gone to that troubl thats a a BIG jump in effort. You can spur a 3 pin off pretty much any wire in the house for 10A!
Pretty straightforard when you actually visualise the system being recommended and the work to fit it!
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Small price increase at Tesla chargers in my area, was as low as 33p per kw now 37p, the other was 36p now 41p. That seems to be in line with general price increase of elec? Gonna be interesting in the future - will people seek out the cheapest rapid chargers like they do petrol station? I'd imagine that once EV ownership increases to a point most of the non-Tesla chargers will have to reduces prices to complete.
It's this one. Plenty of room to shut and lock a big plug. It's only locked with a plastic fixing - but enough to deter a casual grifter. There's a ring camera directly above it too.
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I think you missed a key word in my post, I’ve bolded it for you below.
The whole context of the commando comment was in relation to a new circuit. If you are modifying an existing circuit then yes of course it will be cheaper to slap in an outside socket but you are responding to something I didn’t write.
Incidentally, I’m pretty sure the latest requirements is that if the socket is intended for EV charging, it should be on its own circuit and to all the same EV charging regs, even on a 3 pin.
But as a 3 pin plug is a general socket, I can’t see why anyone would bother unless they were particularly insistent on following the requirements. I also can’t see how that could ever be enforced given you can just unplug it and it’s magically compliant to the standard regs.
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You edited it.
I cant see anyone ever running a new circut for an outdoor. You just spur off existing. Is this something you have personally done? I guess thats the point.
Doesn't bother me, I've had a 7kW for 3 years now, I couldn't manage with a 3pin. But clearly more efficient cars doing less miles will manage.
I cant see anyone ever running a new circut for an outdoor. You just spur off existing. Is this something you have personally done? I guess thats the point.
Doesn't bother me, I've had a 7kW for 3 years now, I couldn't manage with a 3pin. But clearly more efficient cars doing less miles will manage.
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