When are you going fully electric?

JamesM said:
Depends, everyone's circumstances are different. Just saves wasting battery power on warming up the car in the morning.
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Don’t get me wrong, I love preconditioning an EV on a winter morning and use it all the time. I’m just clarifying a potential misconception that people may pick up, that “you need to charge every night in winter”.

We know they are out there! :)
 
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JamesM said:
ABC - Always be charging. If you can plug in every night then remote heating will pull power from the house and keep the battery as full as you set it to be.

Winter time is the best time to own an EV! No de-icing needed ;)
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Confusing. Why pull from the house at 25-30p kWh to pre heat when you just charged the battery at 7p?
 
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Simon said:
Confusing. Why pull from the house at 25-30p kWh to pre heat when you just charged the battery at 7p?
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Depends on whether you are going to be putting those kW back in at 79p/kWh mid journey I guess.

For most of the people most of the time as you say, using a bit of that cheap stored electricity makes the most sense.
 
Simon said:
Confusing. Why pull from the house at 25-30p kWh to pre heat when you just charged the battery at 7p?
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Yeah it actually works out cheaper to just precondition without the car drawing power from the grid. Just warm it up before or even during the journey. Though having said that it’s hardly make or break in costs. It’s more about having a nice warm car to get into on a cold wet winter morning.
 
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Is the lux tax going onto EVs? Just debating a Model Y or giving up and getting an MG4 or something. It's too cheap to walk past...could get two for the price of a Tesla and just swap cars half way through my regular long journey :cry:
 
What a con Nissan Connect is. I have been trying to get pre-heating working on my 2021 Leaf and in the manual it says you can do it from the app. I have had the app since I had the car and there is no option to turn on pre-heat. After a lot of digging around there used to be a Nissan Connect EV app and that must be what the manual refers to. Apparently the app was discontinued back in March and replaced with Nissan Connect, Nissan blaming the switch off of the 2G network for the change. Now to have the same functuality that was free in the Connect EV app you have to pay a monthly subscription per service that you want to reinstate. It's only £1.99 an month which isn't too bad but it's a rip off that they charge for what was free in a previous app. I already had the navigation service as £1.99 a month is very good for up to date maps, live traffic info, route planning and live charging point availability but now I have added the remote services subscription at another £1.99 a month. It's not just remote heating that you get as you also get remote lock/unlock, remote lights and horn which I suppose could be haandy if you can't find your car in a car park along with a couple of other things. Still, it leaves a bad taste in the mouth when it all used to be free.
 
Any thoughts on age/mileage with EV's? Almost certain we are going to go with an e-tron 55. They are super hard to find with the spec I would like and I am relctant to pay too much for fear that if depreciation carries on the way it has there is more to loose. We don't do a huge amount of miles 6-7k a year so we will bring the average down. Question I am pondering is is a 1 year newer car with 20K really worth 6-7k more than one with 70k. The battery warranty is 100k or 8 years, so for a 2019/2020 I don't think we would get to 100K before the warranty expires. I am finding it hard to put a value on battery health.

It seems some what of a gamble with the battery regardless as there is no way to know how it's been treated and how long the cars have been sat around for. I have had my eye on them for at least a month now and none I am looking at have sold which concerns me a little.
 
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dlockers said:
Is the lux tax going onto EVs? Just debating a Model Y or giving up and getting an MG4 or something. It's too cheap to walk past...could get two for the price of a Tesla and just swap cars half way through my regular long journey :cry:
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Only if you take delivery after April.

1 year free supercharging on a Tesla at the moment also.
 
how well can you nail down /guarantee a delivery date (sorry the boat got way lade due to Trump - are they built in EU)

Capt Doufos said:
It seems some what of a gamble with the battery regardless as there is no way to know how it's been treated and how long the cars have been sat around for
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I'd maybe ask for a additional 3rd party battery warranty - now a reality.
 
Can you please explain why you think Trump would stop a car manufacturer from selling inventory already in the U.K. which was assembled in Germany when he is looking to impose more tariffs on cars build outside of the USA?
 
Capt Doufos said:
Any thoughts on age/mileage with EV's? Almost certain we are going to go with an e-tron 55. They are super hard to find with the spec I would like and I am relctant to pay too much for fear that if depreciation carries on the way it has there is more to loose. We don't do a huge amount of miles 6-7k a year so we will bring the average down. Question I am pondering is is a 1 year newer car with 20K really worth 6-7k more than one with 70k. The battery warranty is 100k or 8 years, so for a 2019/2020 I don't think we would get to 100K before the warranty expires. I am finding it hard to put a value on battery health.

It seems some what of a gamble with the battery regardless as there is no way to know how it's been treated and how long the cars have been sat around for. I have had my eye on them for at least a month now and none I am looking at have sold which concerns me a little.
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I'm about to buy an Etron.

In your use case, the higher mileage model makes sense. I do 15k miles a year so I've been looking for cars under 50k miles so I can keep it under 100k after 3 years.

Check the Audi servicing plan out. They do up to 4 years servicing for about £700. It's on offer at the moment. Less of a gamble if the main dealer regularly checks it out.
 
I see Enhance Auto (Maker of the S3XY products for Tesla) have added the ability to deal with the speed chime bong for Teslas sold after the cut off date, up to and including auto disable on start up..

I'm still rocking their s3xy knob and buttons, the main use case for me is auto-pilot re-engage on changing lanes but am finding more useful things to do with it.


In other news, Harry's Garage has done his usual EV style review of the Macan:

Obviously Harry is a bit of a simpleton when it comes to EVs so he tends to be a bit pessimistic and can't put them in to context very well (like a 2.6T inefficient hyper performance EV being indicative of regular EVs)..
 
Demon said:
Obviously Harry is a bit of a simpleton when it comes to EVs so he tends to be a bit pessimistic and can't put them in to context very well (like a 2.6T inefficient hyper performance EV being indicative of regular EVs)..
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But it won't really get any better if it was the RWD entry level and when you tow AWD is a bonus. I like this look of the Macan though personally.

Race trailer, horse trailer or reasonably sized caravan will all have issues with EV, sure you can do it but you have to make some stiff compromises.
 
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I’ll watch that video later as car reviewers seldom stick a trailer on the back. I can compare his comments against my own experience of towing a caravan behind my Model Y
 
I think Harry's great but he's a little bias lately. He might not want safety features on his next skiing trip to the Alps, but I find them handy when a pedestrian steps out in front, or such.


He's argument about all these systems being a nightmare to maintain as cars age is valid to a point and has to taken in the context of the large sums he's spent trying to get his fuelling sorted on the jag coupe or the rebuilds on the lambo. Older isn't always better.
 
sandys said:
I mean you can make comparisons but you car couldn't even tow that with 1600kg.
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So? The weight in this context has a negligible impact on range when rolling at cruising speed. The impact on range is all about the frontal area of the trailer which looks to be very similar to a caravan.
 
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